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Old 11-01-2009, 09:00 PM   #38
xanaxnewtrader

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According to many twelvers Prophet PBUh never had daughters other than Fatima, also according to twelvers anyone called abu bakar or Umar or uthman is "denied", meaning that they deny his existence but guess what Their brothers the Zaidi Shiites actually expose their lies because in their texts Ali had a third and youngest son called Omar and that is common knowledge for them, in fact Twelver scholar use the most ridiculous excuses to prove that the Imams never named thier sons names such as "Uthman, Omar, Abu Bakr".

But before i tell you anything more, first answer my fundamental question above. Is the Imamah from usool el Din according to the twelvers?
I will go off topic and say that I really enjoy having these discussions with you about Shia/Sunni Islam. It really makes me invest my time in Islamic things so thank you.

First off, how do the Zaidi's "expose their lies"? How do you know that they are not lying themselves?

I am not avoiding your question but I would really appreciate it if you could answer mine, since I asked you first. Can you really prove that the Imams like Jafar As Sadiq were not infallible or part of the Holy Imamah? I would really like to see their proof.

I am not sure if the Imamah is from the Usool el din. I am still learning the concepts of Shia Islam so I am not that advanced as you are, but I am some important knowledge of Shia Islam.
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