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**drislerfottor** · 04-17-2011, 02:24 PM

As-Salamu `alaykum wa rahmatullah

may be Faraz can also cite hadith on the permissibility of saying 'Ya Ali Madad' ?

He has. There are several answers on tawassul at SunniPath.com.

I'm sorry for hijacking your thread, but I found it odd Sh Faraz points out that "it is our duty to see what the legal experts of Islam, the fuqaha of the four schools, said about the matter" yet allows saying 'Ya 'Ali madad' (aka the touchy matter) without supporting his claim by the aforementioned experts.

The fuqaha of the four schools permitted tawassul; this fact is mentioned in the related answers at SunniPath.com. Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam says in his answer:

If by seeking help from the Prophets and pious means making them an intermediary between the seeker and Allah, then there is nothing wrong in seeking their help. Tawassul (using intermediaries in supplication to Allah) through the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace), Awliya and righteous believers is permitted, rather recommended according to the four schools of Sunni Islam. (Istighatha: Calling Someone Other Than Allah for Help.)

04-17-2011, 02:24 PM	#19
drislerfottor Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 516 Senior Member	As-Salamu `alaykum wa rahmatullah may be Faraz can also cite hadith on the permissibility of saying 'Ya Ali Madad' ? He has. There are several answers on tawassul at SunniPath.com. I'm sorry for hijacking your thread, but I found it odd Sh Faraz points out that "it is our duty to see what the legal experts of Islam, the fuqaha of the four schools, said about the matter" yet allows saying 'Ya 'Ali madad' (aka the touchy matter) without supporting his claim by the aforementioned experts. The fuqaha of the four schools permitted tawassul; this fact is mentioned in the related answers at SunniPath.com. Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam says in his answer: If by seeking help from the Prophets and pious means making them an intermediary between the seeker and Allah, then there is nothing wrong in seeking their help. Tawassul (using intermediaries in supplication to Allah) through the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace), Awliya and righteous believers is permitted, rather recommended according to the four schools of Sunni Islam. (Istighatha: Calling Someone Other Than Allah for Help.)
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