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**Arrecteve** · 09-02-2011, 07:22 AM

RE: Faraz Rabbani, ibn Adam al-Kawthari, et al.

There was a time when I would check 'Sunni'Path to check the different views, but every since I found out about their beliefs, I stopped take anything coming from them seriously any more. Same with ibn Adam, I used to enjoy his style of speaking and would attend his lectures, but now I especially avoid him because theres not much things worse then a deceiver with an eloquent tongue.

Istighatha is shirk by 'ijma regardless of who it is propagated by, whether the person is rafidhi, shia, sufi, salafi, barelvi, deobandi or whatever else. Shirk is one thing that can never be tolerated and needs to condemned everytime it raises its ugly head.

So I for one, can not understand why people on the one hand say a thing is shirk and then with the other hand are still cosy with those who propagate it!

09-02-2011, 07:22 AM	#40
Arrecteve Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 470 Senior Member	RE: Faraz Rabbani, ibn Adam al-Kawthari, et al. There was a time when I would check 'Sunni'Path to check the different views, but every since I found out about their beliefs, I stopped take anything coming from them seriously any more. Same with ibn Adam, I used to enjoy his style of speaking and would attend his lectures, but now I especially avoid him because theres not much things worse then a deceiver with an eloquent tongue. Istighatha is shirk by 'ijma regardless of who it is propagated by, whether the person is rafidhi, shia, sufi, salafi, barelvi, deobandi or whatever else. Shirk is one thing that can never be tolerated and needs to condemned everytime it raises its ugly head. So I for one, can not understand why people on the one hand say a thing is shirk and then with the other hand are still cosy with those who propagate it!
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