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**tsamprasxx** · 10-11-2011, 08:59 PM

So it's ok to sit in a bus filled with females as long as they are kuffar, right? But if they are Muslim it's a no no?

Same with university lecture theatres etc. - it's ok to have them mixed cos they're not muslim are they?

We in the west spend the whole day interacting with females, but when it comes down to something islamic we develop some kind of blame complex. I just feel we need to make the best out of a bad situation.

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Okay, let's compare your flawed examples:

1. Sitting in a bus filled with women is NOT okay unless it is necessary. This "Islamic retreat" is not necessary. Bus rides also do not last 6 days unless one is travelling from the East coast to the West coast. And this is regardless of whether the women are Muslim or non-Muslim.
2. University lectures do not last 6 days. Also, there is hardly a time during the lectures when you have to interact or even get time to interact with women. You pay attention to the lecture and then leave. During this "Islamic retreat", you cannot leave. You're out in the woods with a bunch of sisters.
3. Interacting with women in the West should only be out of necessity. What is the necessity involved in this "Islamic retreat" to have women come along? Would a believing Muslim go out of their way to speak to the opposite gender? This trip is people going way out of their way to be in the company of non-mahram individuals.

10-11-2011, 08:59 PM	#29
tsamprasxx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	So it's ok to sit in a bus filled with females as long as they are kuffar, right? But if they are Muslim it's a no no? Same with university lecture theatres etc. - it's ok to have them mixed cos they're not muslim are they? We in the west spend the whole day interacting with females, but when it comes down to something islamic we develop some kind of blame complex. I just feel we need to make the best out of a bad situation. . Okay, let's compare your flawed examples: 1. Sitting in a bus filled with women is NOT okay unless it is necessary. This "Islamic retreat" is not necessary. Bus rides also do not last 6 days unless one is travelling from the East coast to the West coast. And this is regardless of whether the women are Muslim or non-Muslim. 2. University lectures do not last 6 days. Also, there is hardly a time during the lectures when you have to interact or even get time to interact with women. You pay attention to the lecture and then leave. During this "Islamic retreat", you cannot leave. You're out in the woods with a bunch of sisters. 3. Interacting with women in the West should only be out of necessity. What is the necessity involved in this "Islamic retreat" to have women come along? Would a believing Muslim go out of their way to speak to the opposite gender? This trip is people going way out of their way to be in the company of non-mahram individuals.
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