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**estheticianI** · 06-11-2011, 01:53 PM

Eventually the Janissaries fell prey to the love of dunya, and lost discipline. They were doing other jobs and not training properly (because the treasury was declining and they were not being paid properly). Several times the Sultans tried to reform the Janissaries but were murdered.

They also kept using bronze cannons which were too heavy to move once set on the field, because the bronze-casting department would lose their jobs if the army switched to lighter iron cannons like the Europeans. Dunya!

This is honestly one of the primary reasons the Ottomans failed to modernize; they had artisans and their guilds doing everything they could to prevent large scale industrialization on par with what European nations during the time were doing.

06-11-2011, 01:53 PM	#12
estheticianI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 503 Senior Member	Eventually the Janissaries fell prey to the love of dunya, and lost discipline. They were doing other jobs and not training properly (because the treasury was declining and they were not being paid properly). Several times the Sultans tried to reform the Janissaries but were murdered. They also kept using bronze cannons which were too heavy to move once set on the field, because the bronze-casting department would lose their jobs if the army switched to lighter iron cannons like the Europeans. Dunya! This is honestly one of the primary reasons the Ottomans failed to modernize; they had artisans and their guilds doing everything they could to prevent large scale industrialization on par with what European nations during the time were doing.
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