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**maxfreemann** · 02-28-2012, 11:31 PM

Extreme? It's this forum that features threads about NIQABI women asking if it's permissible to put something in their mouths to sound less attractive to men. That's extremism.

Shiachat is nowhere even CLOSE to this.

-Jason

Really?
Are you a Muslim?
Allah says in the Qur'an:

"O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep your duty (to Allâh), then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy, or evil desire for adultery) should be moved with desire, but speak in an honourable manner."
Sura Ahzab, v.32.

Lest you start arguing about the command being for the Wives of the Prophet

, let me for-stall you by inviting you to read the principles of tafsir.

Ibn Kathir commented on this verse thus: "As-Suddi and others said; this means, do not be gentle in speech when addressing men." Further, Ibn Zayd said: "Decent and honorable talk that is known to be good.'' This means that she should address non-Mahram men in a manner in which there is no softness, i.e., a woman should not address a non-Mahram man in the same way that she addresses her husband.

So the extremism that you are so worried about is actually wara' and taqwa, something that your Shi'i brethren know nothing about.
Next time on Shiachat, check out whether there is a discussion on group muta' and its jawaz and the Zaynabiyyah.
More details available from bro Tripoly Sunni.
Al salamu 'ala manittaba il hudaa.

02-28-2012, 11:31 PM	#31
maxfreemann Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 465 Senior Member	Extreme? It's this forum that features threads about NIQABI women asking if it's permissible to put something in their mouths to sound less attractive to men. That's extremism. Shiachat is nowhere even CLOSE to this. -Jason Really? Are you a Muslim? Allah says in the Qur'an: "O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep your duty (to Allâh), then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy, or evil desire for adultery) should be moved with desire, but speak in an honourable manner." Sura Ahzab, v.32. Lest you start arguing about the command being for the Wives of the Prophet , let me for-stall you by inviting you to read the principles of tafsir. Ibn Kathir commented on this verse thus: "As-Suddi and others said; this means, do not be gentle in speech when addressing men." Further, Ibn Zayd said: "Decent and honorable talk that is known to be good.'' This means that she should address non-Mahram men in a manner in which there is no softness, i.e., a woman should not address a non-Mahram man in the same way that she addresses her husband. So the extremism that you are so worried about is actually wara' and taqwa, something that your Shi'i brethren know nothing about. Next time on Shiachat, check out whether there is a discussion on group muta' and its jawaz and the Zaynabiyyah. More details available from bro Tripoly Sunni. Al salamu 'ala manittaba il hudaa.
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