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**jarsbars** · 02-26-2012, 04:22 PM

Brother taliban, you are not seeing the big picture. By restricting yourself to Hanafism and deobandism, you will have to accept the teachings of these so called "Akabireen". In your worldview, Islam revolves around the practice and sayings of these so called akabireen, particularly those from Deoband. This is why I invite you to leave it and liberate yourself by only believing in Quran and Hadith. It will be a very liberating experience for you.

Dear Brother,

Actually, neither is this Hanafism nor is this Deobandism. This is Shaikism. This is no where related to Hanafism or Deobandism. Alhamdulillah, I do believe in Quran and Sunnah (not just hadith :P). I'm already liberated, I need no more liberating. But I invite you to study deeply the wisdom of Hanafi Fuqaha found in our Fiqh books and you will truly liberate yourself from many misconceptions.

Being Hanafi or Deobandi means to follow Quran, Sunnah and Jamaat (Sahaba). It doesn't mean to put aside everything and following one saying just because it suits us. This is what the shaikh is trying to do. Bring in one saying of Hazrat Hakeem ul Ummah Rahimahullah and use it to justify his own discouragement of Ta'addud while Allah and his Rasool encouraged it (as it has been amply proved in the ta'addud thread).

Islam doesn't need any takallufaat. Islam is takalluf-free. No need to put conditions on one's self which arsen't put there by Shariat.

I'll wait for the Shaikh to come and discuss this open mindedly with me, otherwise I'll just stick to my opinion that it is indeen a close minded shaikism where theres no room for discussion - No Questions Asked. Just follow us.

Thank you very much.

02-26-2012, 04:22 PM	#4
jarsbars Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 375 Senior Member	Brother taliban, you are not seeing the big picture. By restricting yourself to Hanafism and deobandism, you will have to accept the teachings of these so called "Akabireen". In your worldview, Islam revolves around the practice and sayings of these so called akabireen, particularly those from Deoband. This is why I invite you to leave it and liberate yourself by only believing in Quran and Hadith. It will be a very liberating experience for you. Dear Brother, Actually, neither is this Hanafism nor is this Deobandism. This is Shaikism. This is no where related to Hanafism or Deobandism. Alhamdulillah, I do believe in Quran and Sunnah (not just hadith :P). I'm already liberated, I need no more liberating. But I invite you to study deeply the wisdom of Hanafi Fuqaha found in our Fiqh books and you will truly liberate yourself from many misconceptions. Being Hanafi or Deobandi means to follow Quran, Sunnah and Jamaat (Sahaba). It doesn't mean to put aside everything and following one saying just because it suits us. This is what the shaikh is trying to do. Bring in one saying of Hazrat Hakeem ul Ummah Rahimahullah and use it to justify his own discouragement of Ta'addud while Allah and his Rasool encouraged it (as it has been amply proved in the ta'addud thread). Islam doesn't need any takallufaat. Islam is takalluf-free. No need to put conditions on one's self which arsen't put there by Shariat. I'll wait for the Shaikh to come and discuss this open mindedly with me, otherwise I'll just stick to my opinion that it is indeen a close minded shaikism where theres no room for discussion - No Questions Asked. Just follow us. Thank you very much.
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