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**Sydaycymn** · 01-12-2012, 03:41 PM

First things first - no one is issuing and veiled threats to anybody's life. Change your sentence - you do not know what horrible situation you are creating.

True, but that's where the current crux of the argument is resting upon. The idea that Muslims(by conspiracy of "evil mullahs") will start a riot and there will be law and order problems.

We Indian Muslims do not want Salman Rushdie in India and that is all. And kafirs do want Salman Rushdie in India. To tilt the law to favor one guys "want" over another, requires reasoning and wisdom.

Indeed it is mighty difficult to explain this to America and the west in general.
And it is indeed difficult to explain it to Indian media and intelligentsia - both of them are extensions of the western mindset, only located in India.

So the western attitude is the only one that has to be dealt with. They threw Christianity and hence all of religion out of the window because of Church atrocities. It is really that simple. Now they expect others also to follow suit. It looks natural to them and they are bent upon it. So are our intellectuals, unfortunately including some Muslims. If you deny 1915 massacre by Turkey then it will be illegal in France and US. So they have limitations on the so called freedom of speech. But the latter option is not available to Muslims. Some people are really too dense. Well so be it. By the Grace of Allah (SWT) Muslims at least get out of the house to assert that Mr Rushdie is a persona non grata for us. And that's exactly what Muslims have to do. The kafirs aren't guided by the Quran. It is Muslims who have the guidance. The onus falls upon Muslims to do dawa rather than simply expect kafirs to straight away agree to whatever a Muslim "wants". This is not a issue of Muslim personal law, but a law that infringes on the society irrespective of religion. So to get such a law that a covers a broad spectrum of people, it requires that these broad spectrum of people come to agreement with the Muslims on this issue. But the current issue is that, we already have laws. Yet no one is able to to take the law to its conclusion by showing how these ultra liberal speech is no different to some ultra right hindutva activist or some muslim "extremist". They all agree on preventing free speech to the latter, yet its somehow a free space for these ultra liberals to say anything they want as it is supposedly quite "creative".

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Sydaycymn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 330 Senior Member	First things first - no one is issuing and veiled threats to anybody's life. Change your sentence - you do not know what horrible situation you are creating. True, but that's where the current crux of the argument is resting upon. The idea that Muslims(by conspiracy of "evil mullahs") will start a riot and there will be law and order problems. We Indian Muslims do not want Salman Rushdie in India and that is all. And kafirs do want Salman Rushdie in India. To tilt the law to favor one guys "want" over another, requires reasoning and wisdom. Indeed it is mighty difficult to explain this to America and the west in general. And it is indeed difficult to explain it to Indian media and intelligentsia - both of them are extensions of the western mindset, only located in India. So the western attitude is the only one that has to be dealt with. They threw Christianity and hence all of religion out of the window because of Church atrocities. It is really that simple. Now they expect others also to follow suit. It looks natural to them and they are bent upon it. So are our intellectuals, unfortunately including some Muslims. If you deny 1915 massacre by Turkey then it will be illegal in France and US. So they have limitations on the so called freedom of speech. But the latter option is not available to Muslims. Some people are really too dense. Well so be it. By the Grace of Allah (SWT) Muslims at least get out of the house to assert that Mr Rushdie is a persona non grata for us. And that's exactly what Muslims have to do. The kafirs aren't guided by the Quran. It is Muslims who have the guidance. The onus falls upon Muslims to do dawa rather than simply expect kafirs to straight away agree to whatever a Muslim "wants". This is not a issue of Muslim personal law, but a law that infringes on the society irrespective of religion. So to get such a law that a covers a broad spectrum of people, it requires that these broad spectrum of people come to agreement with the Muslims on this issue. But the current issue is that, we already have laws. Yet no one is able to to take the law to its conclusion by showing how these ultra liberal speech is no different to some ultra right hindutva activist or some muslim "extremist". They all agree on preventing free speech to the latter, yet its somehow a free space for these ultra liberals to say anything they want as it is supposedly quite "creative".
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