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**HonestSean** · 06-02-2010, 02:34 PM

Fall of Khilafat / Fall of Ottoman Empire

Salaam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu brothers and sisters

I saw on the other forum people bashing,hating ata turk . anyways i do not knw much about him and would like knowledgeble bro n sis to educate me .

Please bros and sis keep your nationalism etc aside and carry on the discussion in nice friendly way .

My ques is :

1) who were the people responsible for the fall of Khilafat?
2) can i say Fall of Khilafat and Fall of Ottoman empire as the same thing ?
3) is it true rulers of saudi arabia took aside with the british and fought the ottoman empire the result being fall of islamic khilafat.
4) if they did so were they greedy for power ?
5) had the fall of khilafat not happened would muslims be in much better and powerful state?
6) do we held al-saud family for being traitor to islam and rebelling against the islamic khilafat?

NOTE : bro and sis from saudi arabia pls dont find this post offensive , all ques r based from what i heard from some people . so please people of both sides for argument keep the discussion in a nice friendly manner .

Jazakallah Khair

Well, all I know is that the Saudis did side with the British against the Ottomans, to the extent that the Ikhwan (i.e. the nomadic militia used to fight the battles of the Saudis) were only stopped from fighting when they reached British territiory (I believe Jordan). The Ikhwan, who believed they were fighting a Jihad, became angry over this, and revolted.

I don't know how much this had to do with the fall of the Khilafa, which is more likely due to the weakening of the the moral and leadership capabilities of the later Ottoman Khalifas, the rebellions across the Khilafa lands, the abolishment of the Sultan and then Khalifa by atascumbag, and finally the Ummah's inability to elect a new Khalifa.

06-02-2010, 02:34 PM	#2
HonestSean Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	Fall of Khilafat / Fall of Ottoman Empire Salaam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu brothers and sisters I saw on the other forum people bashing,hating ata turk . anyways i do not knw much about him and would like knowledgeble bro n sis to educate me . Please bros and sis keep your nationalism etc aside and carry on the discussion in nice friendly way . My ques is : 1) who were the people responsible for the fall of Khilafat? 2) can i say Fall of Khilafat and Fall of Ottoman empire as the same thing ? 3) is it true rulers of saudi arabia took aside with the british and fought the ottoman empire the result being fall of islamic khilafat. 4) if they did so were they greedy for power ? 5) had the fall of khilafat not happened would muslims be in much better and powerful state? 6) do we held al-saud family for being traitor to islam and rebelling against the islamic khilafat? NOTE : bro and sis from saudi arabia pls dont find this post offensive , all ques r based from what i heard from some people . so please people of both sides for argument keep the discussion in a nice friendly manner . Jazakallah Khair Well, all I know is that the Saudis did side with the British against the Ottomans, to the extent that the Ikhwan (i.e. the nomadic militia used to fight the battles of the Saudis) were only stopped from fighting when they reached British territiory (I believe Jordan). The Ikhwan, who believed they were fighting a Jihad, became angry over this, and revolted. I don't know how much this had to do with the fall of the Khilafa, which is more likely due to the weakening of the the moral and leadership capabilities of the later Ottoman Khalifas, the rebellions across the Khilafa lands, the abolishment of the Sultan and then Khalifa by atascumbag, and finally the Ummah's inability to elect a new Khalifa.
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