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**botagozzz** · 09-02-2011, 03:15 AM

Yes, you can find other true Hanafis in the world. But most of their teachings will be equivalent to that of the Deoband methedology, because the latter is no seperate sect but rather affirms to the traditional and proven teachings of the Ahlu Sunnah wal-Jama'ah.

I am a no-deobandi, non-barlawi Hanafi - so is my Sheikh (and he is from Pakistan) - we do not fully adhere to the deobandi Ideas, but we also don have a problem with them - we also do not fully adhere to all of the barlawi ideas.

In matters of Fiqh, there is not much of a difference, its in areas of aqeedah where deobandis and barlawis realy diverge. It may seem like all hanafis are one or the other, but thaqt is mainly because most hanafis are from the indo-pak region, and they bring this deobandi/barlawi rivalry with them - and if you live in the region or you surround yourself with people from the region, you begin to live in a bubble, where you see every muslim you meet as falling into one of these (made up) categories.

The funny thing is if you ask an Arab or an Indonesian, or a Western Muslim which category they fall into, they usually have no idea what your talking about. I for one was Muslim for a good 8 or 9 years before I joined this forum, and for those 8 or 9 years I followed hanafi fiqh and had no idea what a deobandi or a barlawi was until you guys taught me - however learning about this divide really opened up my eyes and made a lot of things clear for me on why certain hanafi sufi Muslims had an idealogical beef with other sufi inclined hanafis.

09-02-2011, 03:15 AM	#11
botagozzz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 544 Senior Member	Yes, you can find other true Hanafis in the world. But most of their teachings will be equivalent to that of the Deoband methedology, because the latter is no seperate sect but rather affirms to the traditional and proven teachings of the Ahlu Sunnah wal-Jama'ah. I am a no-deobandi, non-barlawi Hanafi - so is my Sheikh (and he is from Pakistan) - we do not fully adhere to the deobandi Ideas, but we also don have a problem with them - we also do not fully adhere to all of the barlawi ideas. In matters of Fiqh, there is not much of a difference, its in areas of aqeedah where deobandis and barlawis realy diverge. It may seem like all hanafis are one or the other, but thaqt is mainly because most hanafis are from the indo-pak region, and they bring this deobandi/barlawi rivalry with them - and if you live in the region or you surround yourself with people from the region, you begin to live in a bubble, where you see every muslim you meet as falling into one of these (made up) categories. The funny thing is if you ask an Arab or an Indonesian, or a Western Muslim which category they fall into, they usually have no idea what your talking about. I for one was Muslim for a good 8 or 9 years before I joined this forum, and for those 8 or 9 years I followed hanafi fiqh and had no idea what a deobandi or a barlawi was until you guys taught me - however learning about this divide really opened up my eyes and made a lot of things clear for me on why certain hanafi sufi Muslims had an idealogical beef with other sufi inclined hanafis.
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