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**BodeOmissemia** · 01-19-2012, 05:36 AM

etc. Means other people beloved to Allah(sw) who gained martyrdom. As long as you get the ghist, I'm not going to list all of them, as that list would make your scroll very thin.

I know, what etc stands for, could be use in loose translation that's why I said, for companions you shouldn't be saying etc etc, get it?

And your question was already answered above, you look at martyrdom in a negative sense, when it's one of the most blessed things.

I will sense martyrdom negatively?

why are you on shaking around the words out context? I was asking about victory in this world, the triumph of Muslims and the Defeat of Kufr. I was asking why they didn't receive Allah's help and victory like, Moses and Prophet PBUH had hit a success great.

As for the case of the Prophet(pbuh), his time nor his mission was up, Allah thus had to protect him until he could estalibash Islam.

hh Please brother, have a look again on my 1st post, over here.

01-19-2012, 05:36 AM	#9
BodeOmissemia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 491 Senior Member	etc. Means other people beloved to Allah(sw) who gained martyrdom. As long as you get the ghist, I'm not going to list all of them, as that list would make your scroll very thin. I know, what etc stands for, could be use in loose translation that's why I said, for companions you shouldn't be saying etc etc, get it? And your question was already answered above, you look at martyrdom in a negative sense, when it's one of the most blessed things. I will sense martyrdom negatively? why are you on shaking around the words out context? I was asking about victory in this world, the triumph of Muslims and the Defeat of Kufr. I was asking why they didn't receive Allah's help and victory like, Moses and Prophet PBUH had hit a success great. As for the case of the Prophet(pbuh), his time nor his mission was up, Allah thus had to protect him until he could estalibash Islam. hh Please brother, have a look again on my 1st post, over here.
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