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**KeettyGlots** · 01-19-2012, 07:14 AM

I know, what etc stands for, could be use in loose translation that's why I said, for companions you shouldn't be saying etc etc, get it?

I will sense martyrdom negatively?

why are you on shaking around the words out context? I was asking about victory in this world, the triumph of Muslims and the Defeat of Kufr. I was asking why they didn't receive Allah's help and victory like, Moses and Prophet PBUH had hit a success great.

hh Please brother, have a look again on my 1st post, over here.

Salam 'Aleykum,

There is a FAT difference between Prophet Musa SAWS versus Pharaoh and between al-Hussein bin 'Ali (ra) versus yazid.

Musa (as) is a prophet of God fighting against the evil forces of Kufr that wish to suppress the message of Islam.

al-Hussein (ra) was a Muslim who tried to make a revolution in order to overthrow a corrupt Muslim ruler, most of the fighters on both sides were Muslims and many were new to Islam that they never knew al-Hussein (ra) or his virtues and rank, they treated him like a rebel, while others were hypocrites they knew of his rank and virtue, they even wrote him letters promising him to aid him but when he finally showed up they turned on him and killed him thinking that they would please the ruler and would be rewarded.

Salam,

01-19-2012, 07:14 AM	#10
KeettyGlots Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	I know, what etc stands for, could be use in loose translation that's why I said, for companions you shouldn't be saying etc etc, get it? I will sense martyrdom negatively? why are you on shaking around the words out context? I was asking about victory in this world, the triumph of Muslims and the Defeat of Kufr. I was asking why they didn't receive Allah's help and victory like, Moses and Prophet PBUH had hit a success great. hh Please brother, have a look again on my 1st post, over here. Salam 'Aleykum, There is a FAT difference between Prophet Musa SAWS versus Pharaoh and between al-Hussein bin 'Ali (ra) versus yazid. Musa (as) is a prophet of God fighting against the evil forces of Kufr that wish to suppress the message of Islam. al-Hussein (ra) was a Muslim who tried to make a revolution in order to overthrow a corrupt Muslim ruler, most of the fighters on both sides were Muslims and many were new to Islam that they never knew al-Hussein (ra) or his virtues and rank, they treated him like a rebel, while others were hypocrites they knew of his rank and virtue, they even wrote him letters promising him to aid him but when he finally showed up they turned on him and killed him thinking that they would please the ruler and would be rewarded. Salam,
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