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**Meenepek** · 01-27-2012, 05:02 PM

here are interpretations of our scholars:

- The numbers that the narrations state are: "Sixty, seventy, ninety, ninety nine and hundred". The reconciliation between them is as follows. The sixty either refers to his wives or concubines. The seventy is a form of exaggeration. As for ninety and hundred, they have not gone above this. It is below hundred and above ninety (tis'een). [Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani, Fathul Bari, Kitab: Ahaadeeth Al Anbiyaa', Bab: Qawl Allah Ta'aalaa Wawahabnaa li Daawood Sulaaymaan ni'ma al 'abd inahu,Commentary on Hadith no. 3171]

- Ask forgiveness for them, O Muhammad (s), or do not ask forgiveness for them: this leaves the choice of asking forgiveness, or refraining, up to him; the Prophet (s) said, 'I have been given the choice, and I made it', meaning [the choice] to ask forgiveness, as reported by al-Bukhārī. If you ask forgiveness for them seventy times, God will not forgive them: it is said that the 'seventy' is intended to express [by hyperbole] a great frequency of asking forgiveness. (Tafsir al-Jalalayn)

- None of these narrations contradict one another, because there is no disavowal of many by mentioning the little, and the proof for this has already been mentioned several times and that is that the number is implied. [Imam Nawawi, Sharh Saheeh Muslim, Kitab: Al Aymaan, Bab: Al Istithnaa' Commentary on Hadith no. 3123, Source]

the shi'a hadith books (like kafi) don't even have proper isnad (unbroken chain of narrators), their ahadith are not even in the same league as our sahih ahadith and they know it. Allahu akbar.

their futile attempt to discredit the most authentic book after the Qur'an is just a sign of their own insecurity and attempt to confuse the muslimeen that don't have much knowledge.

may Allah show us their true faces and let their efforts be in vain.

01-27-2012, 05:02 PM	#2
Meenepek Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 500 Senior Member	here are interpretations of our scholars: - The numbers that the narrations state are: "Sixty, seventy, ninety, ninety nine and hundred". The reconciliation between them is as follows. The sixty either refers to his wives or concubines. The seventy is a form of exaggeration. As for ninety and hundred, they have not gone above this. It is below hundred and above ninety (tis'een). [Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani, Fathul Bari, Kitab: Ahaadeeth Al Anbiyaa', Bab: Qawl Allah Ta'aalaa Wawahabnaa li Daawood Sulaaymaan ni'ma al 'abd inahu,Commentary on Hadith no. 3171] - Ask forgiveness for them, O Muhammad (s), or do not ask forgiveness for them: this leaves the choice of asking forgiveness, or refraining, up to him; the Prophet (s) said, 'I have been given the choice, and I made it', meaning [the choice] to ask forgiveness, as reported by al-Bukhārī. If you ask forgiveness for them seventy times, God will not forgive them: it is said that the 'seventy' is intended to express [by hyperbole] a great frequency of asking forgiveness. (Tafsir al-Jalalayn) - None of these narrations contradict one another, because there is no disavowal of many by mentioning the little, and the proof for this has already been mentioned several times and that is that the number is implied. [Imam Nawawi, Sharh Saheeh Muslim, Kitab: Al Aymaan, Bab: Al Istithnaa' Commentary on Hadith no. 3123, Source] the shi'a hadith books (like kafi) don't even have proper isnad (unbroken chain of narrators), their ahadith are not even in the same league as our sahih ahadith and they know it. Allahu akbar. their futile attempt to discredit the most authentic book after the Qur'an is just a sign of their own insecurity and attempt to confuse the muslimeen that don't have much knowledge. may Allah show us their true faces and let their efforts be in vain.
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