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**ringtonesmannq** · 04-25-2009, 07:50 AM

Firstly, the word "Min" here is used for Tab'ieed, meaning this knowledge of the unseen is only a fraction of his total knowledge. Also, it is a general statement which means, according to him, RasoolAllah has total knowledge of these things. For it to mean partial knowledge, the author would have mentioned it.

Secondly, is what is recorded on Al-Lawh al-Mahfooth not considered to be from the Ghayb? RasoolAllah doesnt posess knowledge of the ghayb (partial or complete). This is mentioned in the Quran and in the authentic sunnah.

Here's example : وَلَوْ كُنْتُ أَعْلَمُ الْغَيْبَ لَاسْتَكْثَرْتُ مِنَ الْخَيْرِ وَمَا مَسَّنِيَ السُّوءُ

No this is your mind playing games with you e.g. in English language "If I say I know what you are thinking" that doesn't mean that I know every single thing which you think all the time or even every single thing at that moment (of me saying it) its just a phrase!"

It is the unanimous Aqeedah of Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaah that NO ONE including Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) can share the divine knowledge except what Allah (SWT) permits. This is SO OBVIOUS that it doesn't need explaining in a poem.

ONLY A SALAFi with a twisted mind will believe that a Muslim can utter a poem to claim that a person including Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) will know total knowledge of the Luhw and the Qalam.

This is poetry and it "implies" that Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) shared or knew of this knowledge much more then any other human being (which is utterly true). This isn't over-exaggertaion ITS A FACT!

But since this is Poetry and requires abstinence from literal interpretation and thinking, Salafees can't grasp it.

We all believe that part of the knowledge of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) was what Allah (SWT) choose to reveal to him (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam).

You still havn't answered the question. I know very well what "Min" means but where did you get the idea that this means total knowledge of Luh and Qalam?

04-25-2009, 07:50 AM	#31
ringtonesmannq Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 464 Senior Member	Firstly, the word "Min" here is used for Tab'ieed, meaning this knowledge of the unseen is only a fraction of his total knowledge. Also, it is a general statement which means, according to him, RasoolAllah has total knowledge of these things. For it to mean partial knowledge, the author would have mentioned it. Secondly, is what is recorded on Al-Lawh al-Mahfooth not considered to be from the Ghayb? RasoolAllah doesnt posess knowledge of the ghayb (partial or complete). This is mentioned in the Quran and in the authentic sunnah. Here's example : وَلَوْ كُنْتُ أَعْلَمُ الْغَيْبَ لَاسْتَكْثَرْتُ مِنَ الْخَيْرِ وَمَا مَسَّنِيَ السُّوءُ No this is your mind playing games with you e.g. in English language "If I say I know what you are thinking" that doesn't mean that I know every single thing which you think all the time or even every single thing at that moment (of me saying it) its just a phrase!" It is the unanimous Aqeedah of Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaah that NO ONE including Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) can share the divine knowledge except what Allah (SWT) permits. This is SO OBVIOUS that it doesn't need explaining in a poem. ONLY A SALAFi with a twisted mind will believe that a Muslim can utter a poem to claim that a person including Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) will know total knowledge of the Luhw and the Qalam. This is poetry and it "implies" that Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) shared or knew of this knowledge much more then any other human being (which is utterly true). This isn't over-exaggertaion ITS A FACT! But since this is Poetry and requires abstinence from literal interpretation and thinking, Salafees can't grasp it. We all believe that part of the knowledge of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) was what Allah (SWT) choose to reveal to him (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam). You still havn't answered the question. I know very well what "Min" means but where did you get the idea that this means total knowledge of Luh and Qalam?
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