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**FliveGell** · 04-25-2009, 07:52 AM

The Pen has only written what is to happen until the Day of Judgment as mentioned in the authentic narrations, whereas the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) was also given knowledge of the affairs of the Akhirah, something beyond the scope of what's written in the Preserved Tablet. That's the answer to "min"

The lafth was A'aam (general), meaning that he has complete knowledge of the Lawh and qalam. None of the Salaf used this term when referring to the Fadaa'il of RasoolAllah, why did Al-Busairi hundreds of years later?

Secondly, it does not necessarily mean that the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) had all-encompassing knowledge of the ghayb. And even if we accept that the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) was given some knowledge of what is written in the Preserved Tablet, does that mean we have equated his knowledge with Allah's?

No, it obviously doesn't. Otherwise, we'd have to reject the hadiths which mention that the angel is ordered to write down the taqdeer of a child in the womb, because it's attributing knowledge of the future to an angel; is this not shirk then to say that the angel knows the fate of the child? Quantifying the amount of knowledge of the unseen that Rasoolallah had is irrelevant. The fact is, RasoolAllah has NO knowledge of the unseen. This was stated in the Quran and sunnah! Unless you can provide me evidence that states that rasoolAllah has some knowledge of the unseen, you have no argument.

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FliveGell Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 401 Senior Member	The Pen has only written what is to happen until the Day of Judgment as mentioned in the authentic narrations, whereas the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) was also given knowledge of the affairs of the Akhirah, something beyond the scope of what's written in the Preserved Tablet. That's the answer to "min" The lafth was A'aam (general), meaning that he has complete knowledge of the Lawh and qalam. None of the Salaf used this term when referring to the Fadaa'il of RasoolAllah, why did Al-Busairi hundreds of years later? Secondly, it does not necessarily mean that the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) had all-encompassing knowledge of the ghayb. And even if we accept that the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) was given some knowledge of what is written in the Preserved Tablet, does that mean we have equated his knowledge with Allah's? No, it obviously doesn't. Otherwise, we'd have to reject the hadiths which mention that the angel is ordered to write down the taqdeer of a child in the womb, because it's attributing knowledge of the future to an angel; is this not shirk then to say that the angel knows the fate of the child? Quantifying the amount of knowledge of the unseen that Rasoolallah had is irrelevant. The fact is, RasoolAllah has NO knowledge of the unseen. This was stated in the Quran and sunnah! Unless you can provide me evidence that states that rasoolAllah has some knowledge of the unseen, you have no argument.
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