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**Mifsnavassy** · 01-15-2012, 01:36 PM

Brothers, the Kurdish issue emerged when the internal problems in the Muslim world were taken advantage of by the external enemies.
More specifically, the internal problems of the Muslim world were

1)the decline of Islamic thought which led to the 'closing of the door' to ijtihad;
2)the unaccountability of political leadership allowed for pervasive WAHN, resulting in the most cruel, most violent gaining political leadership;
3)these two factors resulting in Uthmani rule over what is today Turkey, Iraq, Syria and Sham with varying degrees of corruption and oppression.

The first factor meant existing problems went unaddressed, unresolved.
It also meant the Muslims were unable to confront new problems and crises. To this day, some ulama still claim that the Ummah cannot confront oppressive tyrants or kufr regimes from among us, thus essentially allowing the most immoral, most violent, most ruthless to gain authority. This is NOT how the sahaba (rah) reacted to either kufr regimes (Harbul Ridda) or the appearance of tyranny, such as the sahaba's response to the murder of Uthman (rahm).

The British entered the Islamic state led by Uthmani sultan at this time and saw some degrees of corruption and oppression. They seductively introduced nationalism in particular to lead to autonomy and self determination for Kurds . And the idea of a separate Kurdish state gained the support of cruel, Wahn obsessed Kurdish elites who saw the concept as a way for them to consolidate wealth, power, elitism, control.

But the British saw Kurdish nationalism as merely a tool to divide the Muslims, not as a viable alternative. It became a weapon to use against the Persians, the Arabs, and the Turks. When these three complied with the British, they sheathed the weapon.

What drives Kurdish nationalism today is the backing of Wahn Kurdish elites. They stand to gain the most.

However, it is HARAM to support, advocate, or permit the separation of Muslims from other Muslims based on HARAM such as nationalism. And Nationalism is HARAM- it is NOT from Islam and not permitted in any form.

01-15-2012, 01:36 PM	#5
Mifsnavassy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 577 Senior Member	Brothers, the Kurdish issue emerged when the internal problems in the Muslim world were taken advantage of by the external enemies. More specifically, the internal problems of the Muslim world were 1)the decline of Islamic thought which led to the 'closing of the door' to ijtihad; 2)the unaccountability of political leadership allowed for pervasive WAHN, resulting in the most cruel, most violent gaining political leadership; 3)these two factors resulting in Uthmani rule over what is today Turkey, Iraq, Syria and Sham with varying degrees of corruption and oppression. The first factor meant existing problems went unaddressed, unresolved. It also meant the Muslims were unable to confront new problems and crises. To this day, some ulama still claim that the Ummah cannot confront oppressive tyrants or kufr regimes from among us, thus essentially allowing the most immoral, most violent, most ruthless to gain authority. This is NOT how the sahaba (rah) reacted to either kufr regimes (Harbul Ridda) or the appearance of tyranny, such as the sahaba's response to the murder of Uthman (rahm). The British entered the Islamic state led by Uthmani sultan at this time and saw some degrees of corruption and oppression. They seductively introduced nationalism in particular to lead to autonomy and self determination for Kurds . And the idea of a separate Kurdish state gained the support of cruel, Wahn obsessed Kurdish elites who saw the concept as a way for them to consolidate wealth, power, elitism, control. But the British saw Kurdish nationalism as merely a tool to divide the Muslims, not as a viable alternative. It became a weapon to use against the Persians, the Arabs, and the Turks. When these three complied with the British, they sheathed the weapon. What drives Kurdish nationalism today is the backing of Wahn Kurdish elites. They stand to gain the most. However, it is HARAM to support, advocate, or permit the separation of Muslims from other Muslims based on HARAM such as nationalism. And Nationalism is HARAM- it is NOT from Islam and not permitted in any form.
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