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**Indinehon** · 01-08-2012, 03:44 PM

Salam

Someone mentioned the name of shaykh Nazim recently, all i have to say is:

Tasawuf is meaningless without complete submission to the shariah. if one observes a "shaykh" of tasawuf who does not follow shariah completely (shirk-like practices are encouraged, they shave, shake hands with women, watch women play music etc.) than one should not give bay'ah to that individual but rather run 180 degrees in the opposite direction (paraphrased from Shaykh Hussain Sattar's lectures).

"Truly Allah uphold this religion even through an immoral man." (Bukhari and Muslim)

We are all sinners...

There is wisdom behind everything... To find someone who embodies the Shariah completely is impossible. Some people are only capable of practicing a little of the Shariah, while other people are capable of practicing alot of the Shariah, because Allah has created us all different, it is necessary that their exist various types of spiritual guides to accommodate the various types of people. Perhaps the mureeds of Shaykh Nazim practices aspects of the Shariah mureeds of Shaykh Hussain Sattar are unable to practice and vice a versa. The prophet (SaW) said, if Allah did not create a people who did not sin, he would destroy them and create them so they would sin...... So would you have me believe that Shaykh Hussin Sattar and his mureeds are sinless and Shaykh Nazim and his mureeds are sinful???

There reality of the matters is they are both sinful.... Just because Allah has veil some people sins and not others is of no consequence. We should have a good opinion of everybody...

I don't follow Shaykh Nazim nor am I associated with his tariqa in anyway....

I prefer the Shadhili path......

01-08-2012, 03:44 PM	#36
Indinehon Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 377 Senior Member	Salam Someone mentioned the name of shaykh Nazim recently, all i have to say is: Tasawuf is meaningless without complete submission to the shariah. if one observes a "shaykh" of tasawuf who does not follow shariah completely (shirk-like practices are encouraged, they shave, shake hands with women, watch women play music etc.) than one should not give bay'ah to that individual but rather run 180 degrees in the opposite direction (paraphrased from Shaykh Hussain Sattar's lectures). "Truly Allah uphold this religion even through an immoral man." (Bukhari and Muslim) We are all sinners... There is wisdom behind everything... To find someone who embodies the Shariah completely is impossible. Some people are only capable of practicing a little of the Shariah, while other people are capable of practicing alot of the Shariah, because Allah has created us all different, it is necessary that their exist various types of spiritual guides to accommodate the various types of people. Perhaps the mureeds of Shaykh Nazim practices aspects of the Shariah mureeds of Shaykh Hussain Sattar are unable to practice and vice a versa. The prophet (SaW) said, if Allah did not create a people who did not sin, he would destroy them and create them so they would sin...... So would you have me believe that Shaykh Hussin Sattar and his mureeds are sinless and Shaykh Nazim and his mureeds are sinful??? There reality of the matters is they are both sinful.... Just because Allah has veil some people sins and not others is of no consequence. We should have a good opinion of everybody... I don't follow Shaykh Nazim nor am I associated with his tariqa in anyway.... I prefer the Shadhili path......
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