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**AbeldeldepBug** · 01-02-2012, 08:48 PM

He was not agreeing with the usage of the term "Wahhabiyyah." The part of the Arabic above left untranslated clarifies this, where he said: "The 'Wahhabiyyah,' according to the terms of the writer, are not innovators in rejecting such matters of innovation." In context, bin Baz is replying to an article printed in India against the Saudis, who used this term, which is why he responded to it "according to the terms of the writer," not that he believed the usage is sound.

Yes, I agree. However, he does clearly go on to use the phrase to clarify its meaning as he sees it. As such, he should have no objection to others using it

This usage has also been seen from other prominent Wahhabi scholars like Abu Baseer al-Tartoosee in this translated article who states:

"I must announce openly and clearly – without any biasness or partisanship: That I am a Wahhabist, amongst those who love Shaykh Muhammadibn ‘Abdil-Wahhāb (may Allāh have mercy upon him) and his Da’wah"

On the pseudo-Salafi Islamic Awakening website we also see reference to this terminology from Dr. Ja'far Shaikh Idris in the article on the main site entitled: The Islamic Fundamentalism of the Wahhabi Movement.

And this terminology is not new, of course. In some other articles published by 'Wahhabis' we see some early references quoted by them whereupon they are being referred to as "Wahhaabiyyah" and "Wahhaabiyyoon" by others. For example, see: THE 'UTHMAANI STATE AND THE STANDPOINT OF THE DA'WAH OF SHAYKH MUHAMMAD IBN 'ABD AL-WAHHAAB CONCERNING IT. In this where Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab's takfiri tendencies were highlighted there are further references to usage of this terminology by others.

At the end of the day, call them Wahhabi, pseudo-salafi or what have you - it makes no difference

01-02-2012, 08:48 PM	#11
AbeldeldepBug Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 600 Senior Member	He was not agreeing with the usage of the term "Wahhabiyyah." The part of the Arabic above left untranslated clarifies this, where he said: "The 'Wahhabiyyah,' according to the terms of the writer, are not innovators in rejecting such matters of innovation." In context, bin Baz is replying to an article printed in India against the Saudis, who used this term, which is why he responded to it "according to the terms of the writer," not that he believed the usage is sound. Yes, I agree. However, he does clearly go on to use the phrase to clarify its meaning as he sees it. As such, he should have no objection to others using it This usage has also been seen from other prominent Wahhabi scholars like Abu Baseer al-Tartoosee in this translated article who states: "I must announce openly and clearly – without any biasness or partisanship: That I am a Wahhabist, amongst those who love Shaykh Muhammadibn ‘Abdil-Wahhāb (may Allāh have mercy upon him) and his Da’wah" On the pseudo-Salafi Islamic Awakening website we also see reference to this terminology from Dr. Ja'far Shaikh Idris in the article on the main site entitled: The Islamic Fundamentalism of the Wahhabi Movement. And this terminology is not new, of course. In some other articles published by 'Wahhabis' we see some early references quoted by them whereupon they are being referred to as "Wahhaabiyyah" and "Wahhaabiyyoon" by others. For example, see: THE 'UTHMAANI STATE AND THE STANDPOINT OF THE DA'WAH OF SHAYKH MUHAMMAD IBN 'ABD AL-WAHHAAB CONCERNING IT. In this where Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab's takfiri tendencies were highlighted there are further references to usage of this terminology by others. At the end of the day, call them Wahhabi, pseudo-salafi or what have you - it makes no difference
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