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Old 01-08-2012, 12:38 PM   #9
22CreessGah

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Subhan Allah (SWT) I give you some ahadith and do you redject him !
Because you throw ahadeeth that are saheeh, hasan, dhaeef, and even non-hadeeth (mawdhoo) at the same time. I realize that you Shi'a have a pretty terrible science of hadeeth but you could at least be more careful when citing Sunni narrations. For example, the narration about 'Ali being the door is classified as mawdhoo by al-Albani , the same guy who verified the narration about Ghadir al-Khum. But of course, that is irrelevant so that you can prove your baseless points, right?

The caliph after me the FIRST caliph ! don't play with the religion ! Now, this is funny. The work that you cite for this narration is Tareekh at-Tabari. It is a huge collection of narrations with many volumes. But, the problem is, none of the narrations are authenticated. They are merely cited. If I write down on a piece of paper, "Ali was the first caliph and those that contested him were all apostates," does that qualify as a valid source of deen for you? Any sane person would not think so. Tareekh at-Tabari contains MANY fabricated narrations, no doubt relayed to Imam Tabari by the Shi'a.

You say Radyu Allahu (SWT) 'anh but bukhari said "alayhis Salam" for Imam Ali (as) and Fatima (as) No, he didn't. Those are put there by those from where you're copy-pasting the narrations from. The saheehain do not use "alayhis salaam". Furthermore, it matters not if I use "alayhis salaam" since there is no harm in it (except in imitating the Shi'a), but saying "radhiallaahu 'anhu" is better since that is also what is found in the Qur'an. رضي الله عنهم ورضوا عنه

Who will to make a mubahala with me about Imam Ali (as) is the true caliph and abu bakr omar and othman are kuffar ?

YES I' M A SHI'A !

PS : omar and abu bakr are the twice awlad az zina = illegitimate relationship (it is in your books !)

PS : The Prophet (SAWAS) cursed abu bakr omar othman...when they didn't go with usama ibn zayd, He (SAWAS) said "la'an Allah man takhallaf 'an Jaych Usama" (Fath al bari fi sharh sahih al bukhari) Let's consider for a moment these statements are true. Then, tell me, why did Rasoolullah not curse Abu Bakr and Uthman more often? Why were they not killed during his lifetime? In fact, he would entrust them with many crucial things in his life and would praise them.

Of course, the Shi'a say that Rasoolullah was afraid. It's funny how you are willing to believe in someone willing to conceal the truth and deceive Muslims (na'udhubillah).

All I can say is that anyone who believes in the line I have bolded is a plain and clear kaafir.
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