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**BitStillrhile** · 01-06-2012, 02:43 AM

how do proponents of gradualism reply to hizb ut tahrirs well known point taht the prophet never took teh position of king over makka. they make this point in refutation of democratic participation. Id like to know how this poins dealt with.

Those two articles were really good jazak allahu khair. i was fascinated to read the book of the founder of an nahda, really shows his understanding of the need of islamic governance. i hope the western media dont discover this book lol or an nahda will be piblic enemy #1 in the western media

I don't know how they respond to that point, but i don't really know how that fact means we can't participate in the system for the collective beneft of the ummah first, and society in general second.

lol i don't think anyone can deny the new reality of islamist rule in the Muslim world. Alhumdulilah. Lets hope that these leaders can bring economic prosperity like the AKP have done so that economic strength carries through to increased political clout, again, like the case of Turkey. I am really interested in legitimate styles of islamic governance, especially given different circumstances around the world and unique political/economic histories of different countries.

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BitStillrhile Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	how do proponents of gradualism reply to hizb ut tahrirs well known point taht the prophet never took teh position of king over makka. they make this point in refutation of democratic participation. Id like to know how this poins dealt with. Those two articles were really good jazak allahu khair. i was fascinated to read the book of the founder of an nahda, really shows his understanding of the need of islamic governance. i hope the western media dont discover this book lol or an nahda will be piblic enemy #1 in the western media how do proponents of gradualism reply to hizb ut tahrirs well known point taht the prophet never took teh position of king over makka. they make this point in refutation of democratic participation. Id like to know how this poins dealt with. Those two articles were really good jazak allahu khair. i was fascinated to read the book of the founder of an nahda, really shows his understanding of the need of islamic governance. i hope the western media dont discover this book lol or an nahda will be piblic enemy #1 in the western media I don't know how they respond to that point, but i don't really know how that fact means we can't participate in the system for the collective beneft of the ummah first, and society in general second. lol i don't think anyone can deny the new reality of islamist rule in the Muslim world. Alhumdulilah. Lets hope that these leaders can bring economic prosperity like the AKP have done so that economic strength carries through to increased political clout, again, like the case of Turkey. I am really interested in legitimate styles of islamic governance, especially given different circumstances around the world and unique political/economic histories of different countries.
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