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Old 01-06-2012, 06:10 AM   #11
BitStillrhile

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brother brother786 i think we are thinking along teh same lines.

I believe the GCC is the way forwards as the bloc and it shoudl invovle GCC countries plus somalia, egypt, tunisia, libya, turkey, malayisa, morocco, jordan, syria when assad goes inshallah may allah disfigure his face, and any other muslim country who still has some respect for islam.

Jordan morocco and egypt are already in talks to join the GCC and they have already developed quite a bit of infrasture including an electricity grid taht goes to all the GCC countries, a unified armed force, a plan for a single currency, a rail goign to the different states, unified economy, freedom of travel in between GCC states and more.


Id like an answer against teh ht arguement though because they say if we could do anti islamic governing for the benefit of islam the prophet was offered to become king of arabia abd turned it down because he would only settle for islamic rule. I need a refutation of the anti gradualist approach basically inshallah, a detailed one is much preferred. This is an exciting time with many great prospects but in my heart i dont feel fully content to support the efforts until i see the full evidences for and against gradualism

also could you provide links to positive western articles. I agree this is an exciting time that holds a lot of promise and potential inshallah and we should be cautious in our optimism but hopeful to what the future holds inshallah
Like you i look forward to contributions from others on this thread insha’Allah. I would like to see what Shaykh Bin Bayyah has said on the issue but don’t know where to look!

Here are a few articles from the Western press regarding political islam and not necessarily positive, but equally not so negative. I guess when i said there is a lot of positive stuff in the western press i just meant that you can find a whole spectrum of opinion regarding these issues.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...gent_arab.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...ed-arab-spring
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...aj-mishra.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ing-west-fears

But anyway, as Muslims we don’t require the approval of non Muslims but there are many non-Muslims who are genuinely ignorant about our worldview and way of life, including governance structures, so i guess these articles and similar ones go some way in redressing the anti Muslim propaganda that is out there.

Interesting but remember the GCC nations may not be so concerned with Islamic unity, Allah knows best i shouldnt assume. However, I would instead hope that Turkey would take the lead as they are in the position to now (regional super power) and also with the historical importance of Turkey in the history of the Ummah, it makes me feel like it would be quite apt lol

Anyway, like you say, caution is the key, and we should pray that Allah SWT helps the new Muslim leaders in improving the condition and status of the Ummah insha’Allah.
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