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**clapsoewmred** · 01-08-2012, 03:13 PM

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This whole issue of negative portrayal of the Sufis is really quite sad and strange. But, the people who spread Islam and saved the Islamic civilization are also the Sufi people !!! Instead of praising and respecting the Sufis, the trend has become Sufi-bashing !!!

Brother in islam this portrayal of the sufis is reality!! there is too many dodgy sufies, and the sad thing is the bad soofies are more popular than the good ones.
the people who saved islam and spread islam are the adherents to shariah.
look at people who take sufism over shariah, they end up as barelwis.

After observing some anti-Sufi comments from some members in Sunni forum , I have noticed a pattern. They will mention some technical
terms mentioned in the sufi literature . However , they intentionally do not mention the context or background in which those technical terms were used.

What is the effect of this satanic trick ? If an ordinary Muslim ,who is not deep into Sufism, hears those technical terms out of context , he
instantly get an impression that sufism and sufi saints are something weird. They should be avoided !!!!!

Let me give you a real life example here. If you check the comments from Quandary , you will know the problem.

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http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-and-why/page3

The Greatest Shaikh [Ibn 'Arabi] writes that he once saw Allah in the form of a horse.”

“In his book, one of the great saints interprets Bismillah (In the name of Allah) to mean Bismi 'l-insani-'l kamil (In the name of the perfect human being). This interpretation met with extreme disapproval from the religious scholars of the time, so they went and asked the venerable Mawlana Jami about it. He said:

That is the interpretation of the term ism (name). It is not the interpretation of the word Allah”

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You see the trick, the whole background or context is not fully mentioned. Why is he posting half-baked information ?

01-08-2012, 03:13 PM	#12
clapsoewmred Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 618 Senior Member	[QUOTE=Abdullah288;670281] This whole issue of negative portrayal of the Sufis is really quite sad and strange. But, the people who spread Islam and saved the Islamic civilization are also the Sufi people !!! Instead of praising and respecting the Sufis, the trend has become Sufi-bashing !!! Brother in islam this portrayal of the sufis is reality!! there is too many dodgy sufies, and the sad thing is the bad soofies are more popular than the good ones. the people who saved islam and spread islam are the adherents to shariah. look at people who take sufism over shariah, they end up as barelwis. After observing some anti-Sufi comments from some members in Sunni forum , I have noticed a pattern. They will mention some technical terms mentioned in the sufi literature . However , they intentionally do not mention the context or background in which those technical terms were used. What is the effect of this satanic trick ? If an ordinary Muslim ,who is not deep into Sufism, hears those technical terms out of context , he instantly get an impression that sufism and sufi saints are something weird. They should be avoided !!!!! Let me give you a real life example here. If you check the comments from Quandary , you will know the problem. --------------------- http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-and-why/page3 The Greatest Shaikh [Ibn 'Arabi] writes that he once saw Allah in the form of a horse.” “In his book, one of the great saints interprets Bismillah (In the name of Allah) to mean Bismi 'l-insani-'l kamil (In the name of the perfect human being). This interpretation met with extreme disapproval from the religious scholars of the time, so they went and asked the venerable Mawlana Jami about it. He said: That is the interpretation of the term ism (name). It is not the interpretation of the word Allah” ------------------- You see the trick, the whole background or context is not fully mentioned. Why is he posting half-baked information ?
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