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**Alex** · 12-28-2011, 02:34 PM

Bismillah
I have read post by student of Allah and found it full of oxymoron. He is quoting verses of quran without knowing the context and then tries to insinuate islamic scholarship is in the same boat. This disinjenious nature becomes more aparent when he posed a circular question. Basically he implied that because one does not know what is alzebra then no point asking a teacher who teaches alzebra on the ground that seeker does not know the teachers ability. Mashallah this are the types of view often associate with a ruybida (ill learned). Amazing todays notion of delusion of grandeur knows no bound and we are told to celebrate such jahalat.
Salam

Shalom Aleikhom,

I cant help it if you have tuned your mind to be offended. Even then, I apologize if I hurt your feelings.

Let me summarize what I said in far more sugar coated vague terms that sell like hot cakes in the market:

1. As a muslim it is your responsibility to verify that you are being taught the correct things.
2. Do not blindly believe because God's deen has proof that you can establish by checking them out as much as it is humanly possible for you.
3. What God says is more important that what a human teacher may say, so always check if your teacher gives references and reasons with you.

Having said all that, I must tell you that I did not bad mouth all or any particular scholar that you or others revere. And when you talk about Islamic scholarship, please do take into consideration that they do not agree with each other on all aspects. That alone tells you that there is no need to glorify them to the level of "PERFECT". Opposing ideas are by definition witness to the fact that only one is right, not all.

It is always ok and very very good to consult the educated and learned people. But it is never OK to set them as partners to God. This is how most non-muslims remain non-muslims, because their scholars have studied for lifetime, so they can never be wrong !!!

The ayaats I quoted are not meaningless without context. They still stand as general rules. BLIND FOLLOWING is bad and one should not walk around with flags of a system that he/she himself does not understand. It makes you look stupid. This is what the extremists use to train terrorists, BLIND BELIEF, no place for QUESTIONING.

PEACE be on you

------------------------ Student of Allah

12-28-2011, 02:34 PM	#17
Alex Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 430 Senior Member	Bismillah I have read post by student of Allah and found it full of oxymoron. He is quoting verses of quran without knowing the context and then tries to insinuate islamic scholarship is in the same boat. This disinjenious nature becomes more aparent when he posed a circular question. Basically he implied that because one does not know what is alzebra then no point asking a teacher who teaches alzebra on the ground that seeker does not know the teachers ability. Mashallah this are the types of view often associate with a ruybida (ill learned). Amazing todays notion of delusion of grandeur knows no bound and we are told to celebrate such jahalat. Salam Shalom Aleikhom, I cant help it if you have tuned your mind to be offended. Even then, I apologize if I hurt your feelings. Let me summarize what I said in far more sugar coated vague terms that sell like hot cakes in the market: 1. As a muslim it is your responsibility to verify that you are being taught the correct things. 2. Do not blindly believe because God's deen has proof that you can establish by checking them out as much as it is humanly possible for you. 3. What God says is more important that what a human teacher may say, so always check if your teacher gives references and reasons with you. Having said all that, I must tell you that I did not bad mouth all or any particular scholar that you or others revere. And when you talk about Islamic scholarship, please do take into consideration that they do not agree with each other on all aspects. That alone tells you that there is no need to glorify them to the level of "PERFECT". Opposing ideas are by definition witness to the fact that only one is right, not all. It is always ok and very very good to consult the educated and learned people. But it is never OK to set them as partners to God. This is how most non-muslims remain non-muslims, because their scholars have studied for lifetime, so they can never be wrong !!! The ayaats I quoted are not meaningless without context. They still stand as general rules. BLIND FOLLOWING is bad and one should not walk around with flags of a system that he/she himself does not understand. It makes you look stupid. This is what the extremists use to train terrorists, BLIND BELIEF, no place for QUESTIONING. PEACE be on you ------------------------ Student of Allah
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