DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate - View Single Post - Time to make Arabic the common language of Pakistan ?

**OwdBKKHO** · 01-04-2012, 01:11 AM

I like diversity and have loathing for a fascist like syndrom interpreation Islam. None is saying Arabic is not the language of Rasullah SAW but the question is why Allah has created people into different nations, tribes? The variety of langauge in itself is a sign of rahama.

No one is denying that diversity is a good thing and that Allah has created us into different tribes and nations. Nothing the OP posted brings this into question or poses a threat to this.

I am sorry I don't buy into the lamadhabi interpreation of langauge either. Tell the arabs to master their language first before sholving it down our throat.

Regarding the relationship of the Arabic language to the Arabs and the Muslims, Arabic, pure Arabic, Arabic as in the language derived from the Quran, what is called "Fusha", is the language of all Muslims, just as the Quran is a book for all Muslims, and just as the Prophet (peace be upon him) is the prophet of all Muslims, Arab and non-Arab. According to the logic that you are employing in the statement "Tell the arabs to master their language first before sholving it down our throat" the Quran must also be "their" book since it was revealed in "their" language and to a person who was an Arab. I hope you can see how this is incorrect and a disturbing assertion.

We bangalis fought against colonisaiton of Pakistanis and am sure the rest of the world would do the same be muslim or non muslim. I hate arabisation, Pakiasation, Anglocisation of a culture. Allahualam

Yes, Bengalis fought against it and fought valiantly against the excesses of "Pak"istan; for that I commend them. However, your point has little relevance to the subject of this thread. The subject of this thread was whether not it was now time, or was in some way beneficial, to change the "lingua franca" (i.e. language used to communicate between groups of people not sharing the same mother tongue) from Urdu (a language that is the first language of a VERY small percentage of people in Pakistan), to Arabic. The fact is that the bulk of those people now living in areas that are part of Pakistan are of the opinion that it makes sense to have some common language so that members of various groups can communicate with each other (although that doesn't mean that they don't think that their own mother tongues should not have official status in the nation or not be taught in schools and the like). So in this case the poster is not asking a question about whether there ought to be a common language used to communicate among people of with different mother tongues but takes this as a given. Instead they are asking whether, if there is going to be a lingua franca, it should be Arabic because if it were so there would be obvious religious advantages, as opposed to Urdu, which is an artificially constructed language with very few who speak it as a mother tongue and which over the years has been associated with various controversies.

I hope that this brings some clarity on things.

01-04-2012, 01:11 AM	#36
OwdBKKHO Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 486 Senior Member	I like diversity and have loathing for a fascist like syndrom interpreation Islam. None is saying Arabic is not the language of Rasullah SAW but the question is why Allah has created people into different nations, tribes? The variety of langauge in itself is a sign of rahama. No one is denying that diversity is a good thing and that Allah has created us into different tribes and nations. Nothing the OP posted brings this into question or poses a threat to this. I am sorry I don't buy into the lamadhabi interpreation of langauge either. Tell the arabs to master their language first before sholving it down our throat. Regarding the relationship of the Arabic language to the Arabs and the Muslims, Arabic, pure Arabic, Arabic as in the language derived from the Quran, what is called "Fusha", is the language of all Muslims, just as the Quran is a book for all Muslims, and just as the Prophet (peace be upon him) is the prophet of all Muslims, Arab and non-Arab. According to the logic that you are employing in the statement "Tell the arabs to master their language first before sholving it down our throat" the Quran must also be "their" book since it was revealed in "their" language and to a person who was an Arab. I hope you can see how this is incorrect and a disturbing assertion. We bangalis fought against colonisaiton of Pakistanis and am sure the rest of the world would do the same be muslim or non muslim. I hate arabisation, Pakiasation, Anglocisation of a culture. Allahualam Yes, Bengalis fought against it and fought valiantly against the excesses of "Pak"istan; for that I commend them. However, your point has little relevance to the subject of this thread. The subject of this thread was whether not it was now time, or was in some way beneficial, to change the "lingua franca" (i.e. language used to communicate between groups of people not sharing the same mother tongue) from Urdu (a language that is the first language of a VERY small percentage of people in Pakistan), to Arabic. The fact is that the bulk of those people now living in areas that are part of Pakistan are of the opinion that it makes sense to have some common language so that members of various groups can communicate with each other (although that doesn't mean that they don't think that their own mother tongues should not have official status in the nation or not be taught in schools and the like). So in this case the poster is not asking a question about whether there ought to be a common language used to communicate among people of with different mother tongues but takes this as a given. Instead they are asking whether, if there is going to be a lingua franca, it should be Arabic because if it were so there would be obvious religious advantages, as opposed to Urdu, which is an artificially constructed language with very few who speak it as a mother tongue and which over the years has been associated with various controversies. I hope that this brings some clarity on things.
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