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**Doctor-CTAC** · 12-27-2011, 04:34 PM

Well, we can see the example of the Arabian Peninsula under the sahaba . There were no polytheistic idolators found on the peninsula from their time until globalization began in the 20th century. Similarly, in Africa, you don't see many (if any) animists in northern Africa.

It isn't really a speculation - speculating about the past is almost always pointless if there is nothing to be learned - but it should act as something to remind ourselves as we move onwards to the future.

Africa is a bad example. Don't forget that Spain (which runs along the same current as the North African Ulema) not only had Islam ripped out of it, but it was full of corruption prior to the Crusaders taking it over. Not only that, but the further south you go, the more polytheists you find.

And look at Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. These are Shafi`i countries, and yet they are full of kuffar, shirk, bid`a, etc.

So the problem is you're only looking at examples that serve to further your argument. But I would say the more likely reason for the lack of polytheism in Arab Shafi`i lands is due to the fact that those are closer to the heartland of Islam, and not because they happened to be primarily Shafi`i. Don't forget that they were mainly ruled by Hanafis just like India.

So the issue is most likely one of proximity to the centers of Islam, and not one of certain Madhabs being strict or lax with regards to their treatment of kuffar.

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Doctor-CTAC Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 408 Senior Member	Well, we can see the example of the Arabian Peninsula under the sahaba . There were no polytheistic idolators found on the peninsula from their time until globalization began in the 20th century. Similarly, in Africa, you don't see many (if any) animists in northern Africa. It isn't really a speculation - speculating about the past is almost always pointless if there is nothing to be learned - but it should act as something to remind ourselves as we move onwards to the future. Africa is a bad example. Don't forget that Spain (which runs along the same current as the North African Ulema) not only had Islam ripped out of it, but it was full of corruption prior to the Crusaders taking it over. Not only that, but the further south you go, the more polytheists you find. And look at Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. These are Shafi`i countries, and yet they are full of kuffar, shirk, bid`a, etc. So the problem is you're only looking at examples that serve to further your argument. But I would say the more likely reason for the lack of polytheism in Arab Shafi`i lands is due to the fact that those are closer to the heartland of Islam, and not because they happened to be primarily Shafi`i. Don't forget that they were mainly ruled by Hanafis just like India. So the issue is most likely one of proximity to the centers of Islam, and not one of certain Madhabs being strict or lax with regards to their treatment of kuffar.
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