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**jokiruss** · 01-13-2008, 01:18 PM

SubhanAllah! Brother Khanbaba is anything about "wahabi"/Salafi, lol...

And since when has bid'a become restricted only to those things borrowed from Kufar? Bid'a means simply 'innovation', there is no dictionary and no connotation with the word of it being restricted only to innovations *from* other religions. The real problem is reading the words of shuyukh through a lens of those with pre-established views on certain parties/acts so that they'll diminish the intended meaning of the shuyukh who condemned those parties or those acts.

The reality of living in a time surrounded by Wahabi understandings should not escape even the most adamant anti-Wahabi. No one, including myself, should think they have cleansed themselves of this without deep consideration. The reality which has been created has affected our interpretation of complex and subtle concepts and techniques and transformed them into simplistic, childish ideas.

If one could find some other way to reconcile how Imam Sirhindi (R) attacked 'Bida' but somehow felt quite at ease about Mawlid with Naats and Qasidah's, Tariqats themselves with 'innovated' names, and concepts such as 'fana' and entered topics of Tassawuf then please feel free to explain. Otherwise, its clear what was understood from this and his other writings.

01-13-2008, 01:18 PM	#36
jokiruss Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 394 Senior Member	SubhanAllah! Brother Khanbaba is anything about "wahabi"/Salafi, lol... And since when has bid'a become restricted only to those things borrowed from Kufar? Bid'a means simply 'innovation', there is no dictionary and no connotation with the word of it being restricted only to innovations from other religions. The real problem is reading the words of shuyukh through a lens of those with pre-established views on certain parties/acts so that they'll diminish the intended meaning of the shuyukh who condemned those parties or those acts. The reality of living in a time surrounded by Wahabi understandings should not escape even the most adamant anti-Wahabi. No one, including myself, should think they have cleansed themselves of this without deep consideration. The reality which has been created has affected our interpretation of complex and subtle concepts and techniques and transformed them into simplistic, childish ideas. If one could find some other way to reconcile how Imam Sirhindi (R) attacked 'Bida' but somehow felt quite at ease about Mawlid with Naats and Qasidah's, Tariqats themselves with 'innovated' names, and concepts such as 'fana' and entered topics of Tassawuf then please feel free to explain. Otherwise, its clear what was understood from this and his other writings.
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