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**Gabbavnf** · 07-20-2006, 04:53 AM

Assalamulaikum

The hadith is saheeh. It is confirmed. It happened.

However, this is what happens when we take Hadiths on their own with no understanding. I am not a scholar/sheikh/alim but if you just look at Sahih Muslim Volume 4 there is a whole chapter on this issue where if the Prophet Muhammad cursed someone and they did not deserve it, it will serve as reward for them on the Day of Judgement!

We have to stop taking hadiths and incidents of the Propehts' life and saying "oh, that can't be the case". If it is confirmed, we should accept it. And, we should try and wrap our warped, convoluted, and brain-washed minds into accepting the incident and not the other way around.

This is not a personal attack just a general statement.
May Allah forgive me if I have said anything wrong
Walaikum salaam

Aleikom salam, true akhi, i understand and have checked that chapter of Sahih Bukhari, but still this hadeeth confuses me and it doesn't tell us the reason why the prophet saw said this, which i hope to find out later.

Secondly we know the famous story of the Prophet making dua for the people who boed and threw stones at him while he was preaching the message of islam to them , Gabriel asked the Prophet if he wanted him to punish that village/city, yet the Prophet told Gabriel not to punish them, and the Prophet saw made dua for these same people who cursed him.

In this hadeeth we see the Prophet saw curse an orphan girl which is strange to see, especially when we look at other hadeeth.Unforuntately no reason is given in the hadeeth for the Prophet saying this, which is very regretfull and a problem with some other hadeeth too ( stories are sometimes partly narrated and things that way will be taken out of context and will confuse many people, like in this case perhaps is also the issue)

07-20-2006, 04:53 AM	#3
Gabbavnf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 510 Senior Member	Assalamulaikum The hadith is saheeh. It is confirmed. It happened. However, this is what happens when we take Hadiths on their own with no understanding. I am not a scholar/sheikh/alim but if you just look at Sahih Muslim Volume 4 there is a whole chapter on this issue where if the Prophet Muhammad cursed someone and they did not deserve it, it will serve as reward for them on the Day of Judgement! We have to stop taking hadiths and incidents of the Propehts' life and saying "oh, that can't be the case". If it is confirmed, we should accept it. And, we should try and wrap our warped, convoluted, and brain-washed minds into accepting the incident and not the other way around. This is not a personal attack just a general statement. May Allah forgive me if I have said anything wrong Walaikum salaam Aleikom salam, true akhi, i understand and have checked that chapter of Sahih Bukhari, but still this hadeeth confuses me and it doesn't tell us the reason why the prophet saw said this, which i hope to find out later. Secondly we know the famous story of the Prophet making dua for the people who boed and threw stones at him while he was preaching the message of islam to them , Gabriel asked the Prophet if he wanted him to punish that village/city, yet the Prophet told Gabriel not to punish them, and the Prophet saw made dua for these same people who cursed him. In this hadeeth we see the Prophet saw curse an orphan girl which is strange to see, especially when we look at other hadeeth.Unforuntately no reason is given in the hadeeth for the Prophet saying this, which is very regretfull and a problem with some other hadeeth too ( stories are sometimes partly narrated and things that way will be taken out of context and will confuse many people, like in this case perhaps is also the issue)
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