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**emuffette** · 11-10-2011, 04:25 PM

Indeed. Reading Sahih Muslim - in translation no less- is to expose oneself to information which one cannot accurately interpret merely with a layman's comprehension. Let alone a new convert.

I converted to Islam 20 years ago and thankfully I did not purchase the Sahih Muslim collection. I recall the first 5 years or so I and some other converts used to argue over various ahadith we would bring to each other's attention. It often seemed like a major event every time this occurred. We ignorantly argued over hadith which ulama have addressed for centuries.

I have not read of nor heard nor been taught nor studied the hadith that is the focus of this discussion. I know this much:

There is sanad and there is matn regarding the authenticity validity and meaning of a single hadith.
If someone is to present a CONTROVERSY regarding a hadith, then he is encumbered to present all the information regarding it.

What did the scholars of hadith and fiqh say about this hadith, as they have surely studied and memorized and contemplated on it and addressed it in relation to authentic, famous, and established hadith of the same topic of cursing?

11-10-2011, 04:25 PM	#11
emuffette Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 491 Senior Member	Indeed. Reading Sahih Muslim - in translation no less- is to expose oneself to information which one cannot accurately interpret merely with a layman's comprehension. Let alone a new convert. I converted to Islam 20 years ago and thankfully I did not purchase the Sahih Muslim collection. I recall the first 5 years or so I and some other converts used to argue over various ahadith we would bring to each other's attention. It often seemed like a major event every time this occurred. We ignorantly argued over hadith which ulama have addressed for centuries. I have not read of nor heard nor been taught nor studied the hadith that is the focus of this discussion. I know this much: There is sanad and there is matn regarding the authenticity validity and meaning of a single hadith. If someone is to present a CONTROVERSY regarding a hadith, then he is encumbered to present all the information regarding it. What did the scholars of hadith and fiqh say about this hadith, as they have surely studied and memorized and contemplated on it and addressed it in relation to authentic, famous, and established hadith of the same topic of cursing?
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