I am asking for the proof, why ask me to post stuff? You must have been to a deobandi mosque,if you note the people praying there, u will see that almost all of them place hands above the naval practically. I am sure that most of the common hanafis dont place them below the naval. This "below the naval" thingy is limited to written debates only. Half of the hanafi population (ladies) place their hands on chest in Qayam already. Where is is this "below the naval" in real?