[JasminBerkova]

lets see how far you get. tell us how will you independantlyinvestigate the slaughter houses. do you think you can jsut walk in. & then if all the muslims in the country wanted to do their own investigation. they all walk in. if you want just buy your own chicken, sheep & cow & do the job yourself. & remember you will have to be there to watch & listen for the basmalah.

slaughter houses...? okay we never going to agree here. i dont need to investigate any slaughter house because i don't have any intentions of ever swallowing a bite of chicken that was slaughtered in a slaughter house! not only for halal reasons, its just plain and simply animal cruelty. have you ever watched a video of what goes on in a slaughter house??? i suppose not.

have you ever asked yourself WHY muslims, even ulama cannot go and inspect a chicken slaughter house without the prior permission and first notifying the "industry" which supplies the halaal certification for the plant???

and to answer your question, ppl in S.A who don't eat the chickens from slaughter plants are all not farmers! there are ppl who get live chickens and go to certain farms where they slaughter (or get someone they trust to slaughter) the sunnah shar'ee way, without stunning, terrorizing and brutalizing the animal. is it really such a problem to get two to three halal chickens a week? and even if you genuinely could'nt, it doesn'nt make haraam halaal, nor does it make doubtful undoubtful.

if anyone is interested in thinking about what the chicken (the innocent creation of ALLAH) had to go through in the slaughter-house to arrive on your plate, plz watch these vids.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfVBsTBNsg0
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBUztBB5ry8
https://secure.peta.org/site/Advocacy?id=1552
http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvega...terhouses.html
www.upc-online.org/slaughter/report.html
www.thechickentruth.comuf.com/