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**JasminBerkova** · 11-17-2011, 09:56 PM

so you dont buy any chicken, beef or mutton from any butcher, you have it killed yourself on a farm. just remember these chickens are not haraam they are doubtful acording to some. to lable something haraam which is halaal is wors than taking a haraam & making in halaal. & we dont know what realy takes place at slaughter houses because we not there. cruelty to animals is haraam but eating the meat from an animal which is beaten before being slaughtered is not haraam.

Yes, we don't actually go and slaughter ourselves,,, There is a small place/butcher somewhere in the free state that slaughter's the 100% halaal way (without even stunning their animals) and delivers the meat//products etc. to gauteng, we get it from there.

We know whats going on in slaughter houses coz there's ample video's and evidence available, which of course can't be seen with closed eyes.

They a are million% haraam according to lots of ulama.

This is not beating an animal before slaughtering it, its brutally KILLING, DROWNING, ELECTROCUTING and MURDERING the animal.

How is it worse to make something halaal haraam than to make something haraam halaal?

Anyway its only becoming of a mu'min to abstain from doubtful, so we should abstain from the chickens since its evidently doubtful if not totally HARAAM.

Also, due to health and hygienic reasons its not fit for consumption according to many kuffaar.

11-17-2011, 09:56 PM	#19
JasminBerkova Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 529 Senior Member	so you dont buy any chicken, beef or mutton from any butcher, you have it killed yourself on a farm. just remember these chickens are not haraam they are doubtful acording to some. to lable something haraam which is halaal is wors than taking a haraam & making in halaal. & we dont know what realy takes place at slaughter houses because we not there. cruelty to animals is haraam but eating the meat from an animal which is beaten before being slaughtered is not haraam. Yes, we don't actually go and slaughter ourselves,,, There is a small place/butcher somewhere in the free state that slaughter's the 100% halaal way (without even stunning their animals) and delivers the meat//products etc. to gauteng, we get it from there. We know whats going on in slaughter houses coz there's ample video's and evidence available, which of course can't be seen with closed eyes. They a are million% haraam according to lots of ulama. This is not beating an animal before slaughtering it, its brutally KILLING, DROWNING, ELECTROCUTING and MURDERING the animal. How is it worse to make something halaal haraam than to make something haraam halaal? Anyway its only becoming of a mu'min to abstain from doubtful, so we should abstain from the chickens since its evidently doubtful if not totally HARAAM. Also, due to health and hygienic reasons its not fit for consumption according to many kuffaar.
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