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**Imihooniump** · 11-18-2011, 07:22 PM

Yes, we don't actually go and slaughter ourselves,,, There is a small place/butcher somewhere in the free state that slaughter's the 100% halaal way (without even stunning their animals) and delivers the meat//products etc. to gauteng, we get it from there.

We know whats going on in slaughter houses coz there's ample video's and evidence available, which of course can't be seen with closed eyes.

They a are million% haraam according to lots of ulama.

This is not beating an animal before slaughtering it, its brutally KILLING, DROWNING, ELECTROCUTING and MURDERING the animal.

How is it worse to make something halaal haraam than to make something haraam halaal?

Anyway its only becoming of a mu'min to abstain from doubtful, so we should abstain from the chickens since its evidently doubtful if not totally HARAAM.

Also, due to health and hygienic reasons its not fit for consumption according to many kuffaar.

So then you only eat the food you cook yourself, you don’t eat out, no whimpy, steers, machachos, bismillahs if you in JHB, no spurs, you don’t go to weddings or you don’t eat there, you only eat the food of family members who buy from the same man. Why not just go to lenasia life stock. They go chicken & you can choose your sheep.
Remember not everyone can go out to free state. & when the butcher is well known for his halaal meat, we all gona go & then we back to the mass production. & by the way are we sure that they stun the halaal sheep & cows too. Im sorry but I can’t believe that so many muslim ulama walk in to a slaughter house & the owners pay for a certificate & still don’t follow procedure. If this is going back to the rainbow chicken story in DeDuer then know this, the supervisor that resigned phoned into the radio station & gave a statement. & what he said is nothing like what the ulama that were carrying out the witch hunt said.
As far as making it haram if not so- halaal food is a bounty of Allah do you want to say that it is haram to eat from the bounty of Allah. Yes abstaining is better & if you wish then do it for yourself but don’t say its haram for all. Its like when you don’t drink coke because you would be supporting Israel, you show that zuhd but you don’t force it on others.

11-18-2011, 07:22 PM	#20
Imihooniump Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	Yes, we don't actually go and slaughter ourselves,,, There is a small place/butcher somewhere in the free state that slaughter's the 100% halaal way (without even stunning their animals) and delivers the meat//products etc. to gauteng, we get it from there. We know whats going on in slaughter houses coz there's ample video's and evidence available, which of course can't be seen with closed eyes. They a are million% haraam according to lots of ulama. This is not beating an animal before slaughtering it, its brutally KILLING, DROWNING, ELECTROCUTING and MURDERING the animal. How is it worse to make something halaal haraam than to make something haraam halaal? Anyway its only becoming of a mu'min to abstain from doubtful, so we should abstain from the chickens since its evidently doubtful if not totally HARAAM. Also, due to health and hygienic reasons its not fit for consumption according to many kuffaar. So then you only eat the food you cook yourself, you don’t eat out, no whimpy, steers, machachos, bismillahs if you in JHB, no spurs, you don’t go to weddings or you don’t eat there, you only eat the food of family members who buy from the same man. Why not just go to lenasia life stock. They go chicken & you can choose your sheep. Remember not everyone can go out to free state. & when the butcher is well known for his halaal meat, we all gona go & then we back to the mass production. & by the way are we sure that they stun the halaal sheep & cows too. Im sorry but I can’t believe that so many muslim ulama walk in to a slaughter house & the owners pay for a certificate & still don’t follow procedure. If this is going back to the rainbow chicken story in DeDuer then know this, the supervisor that resigned phoned into the radio station & gave a statement. & what he said is nothing like what the ulama that were carrying out the witch hunt said. As far as making it haram if not so- halaal food is a bounty of Allah do you want to say that it is haram to eat from the bounty of Allah. Yes abstaining is better & if you wish then do it for yourself but don’t say its haram for all. Its like when you don’t drink coke because you would be supporting Israel, you show that zuhd but you don’t force it on others.
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