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**KimLinbert** · 11-21-2011, 06:29 PM

akhi, please tell me-your salah relies upon that of the imaam completely. do you go & ask the imaam if he completed all the fara-idh during his salah & his shuroot or do you accept that he did it. do you ask him if he made his istinjah. the correctness of your salah depend on that of his. he would take offence wouldnt he & you expect him to follow through. so if a muslim slaugters why dont you expect him to folow through with it according to the shariah. can you prove that they do not slaughter according to the sharia or are your asuming. have you been there.

& yes if the fardh is done then its done, or are you making the sunnah wajib now. & yes if he were to complete the wajib of salah then his salah is complete or do you say other wise.

My brother I am not required to investigate whether the Imaam has done wudhu correctly or not. This is the Imam's responsibility. However, if I know that something is not being carried out Islamically then it becomes my duty to change it with my hand, tongue, speech and the least is to have an aversion in my heart.

Your last comment is very dangerous. Nobody is making the sunnah fardh. However, the wholesale practice of Makroohaat (reprehensibilities) repeatedly and with impunity renders it the obligation of people to challenge it.

My question still stands why do those Ulama who know very well that nearly every makrooh practice is being carried out in these slaughterhouses inform the poeple to perform their salaah bare chested?? Atleast inform the people correctly and not take the responsibility of thousands from this ummah consuming at the very least doubtful food.

Please also inform me as I have asked before as to how the current method of slaughtering conforms with the teachings of Rasulullah ? Does this not matter? Does our Imaan allow us to consume meat that is in flagrant violation of the Shariah?

This conversation will carry on and we will continue to go round and round in circles.

I ask you of one request which please grant me. That is do you feel in the depths of your heart that Rasulullah

would sanction the practices of the slaughter houses? Let us for once forget the technicalities and focus on this. You do not need to inform me of what you heart feels I only want you to soul search objectively.

if you do this sincerely you will find the answer.

May Allah Ta'ala grant you aafiyat in this world and the next.

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KimLinbert Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	akhi, please tell me-your salah relies upon that of the imaam completely. do you go & ask the imaam if he completed all the fara-idh during his salah & his shuroot or do you accept that he did it. do you ask him if he made his istinjah. the correctness of your salah depend on that of his. he would take offence wouldnt he & you expect him to follow through. so if a muslim slaugters why dont you expect him to folow through with it according to the shariah. can you prove that they do not slaughter according to the sharia or are your asuming. have you been there. & yes if the fardh is done then its done, or are you making the sunnah wajib now. & yes if he were to complete the wajib of salah then his salah is complete or do you say other wise. My brother I am not required to investigate whether the Imaam has done wudhu correctly or not. This is the Imam's responsibility. However, if I know that something is not being carried out Islamically then it becomes my duty to change it with my hand, tongue, speech and the least is to have an aversion in my heart. Your last comment is very dangerous. Nobody is making the sunnah fardh. However, the wholesale practice of Makroohaat (reprehensibilities) repeatedly and with impunity renders it the obligation of people to challenge it. My question still stands why do those Ulama who know very well that nearly every makrooh practice is being carried out in these slaughterhouses inform the poeple to perform their salaah bare chested?? Atleast inform the people correctly and not take the responsibility of thousands from this ummah consuming at the very least doubtful food. Please also inform me as I have asked before as to how the current method of slaughtering conforms with the teachings of Rasulullah ? Does this not matter? Does our Imaan allow us to consume meat that is in flagrant violation of the Shariah? This conversation will carry on and we will continue to go round and round in circles. I ask you of one request which please grant me. That is do you feel in the depths of your heart that Rasulullah would sanction the practices of the slaughter houses? Let us for once forget the technicalities and focus on this. You do not need to inform me of what you heart feels I only want you to soul search objectively. if you do this sincerely you will find the answer. May Allah Ta'ala grant you aafiyat in this world and the next.
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