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Old 07-20-2011, 07:25 AM   #25
Shootohoist

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Bismillah
Dawud Beale;
I did not get the part of Ibn Arabi. He was controversial figure but scholar takes what is acceptable and reject what is not. this is how we suppose to be. Br. dawud, I am not deobandi or berlewi and our relationship to Allah SAW is not a monolitich one. I didn't get what salafi and deobandi have anything to do with Rumis poetry. it is shame we have reached a state where we can't appreicate the beauty of words and generally in absense of these ability, they end up getting wrong end of the stick. I do not wish to contribute to this so called debate between ghair muqalid and muqalid. Why can you not allow people a bit of leaway and see how things play up. I find any pathological stance generally lacking sincerety or humility. Anyway, you do not have to listen to Jalal Uddin Rumi (RAH). this reminds of one of these incident where laymen start to accuse one man of being fasiq because his teacher told him not to read quran and do adkar abudently. The shaikh instructed him because the insightful student was unable to see beyone what is apparent and he complain to the shaikh. After months of dhikr, when he started to recite the quran, every ayah open up with new meanings to him. the knowledge is rarely resides in the mind but in the heart. hence Ali (RAD) pointed towards the heart when questioned about knowledge. The faculty of aql is in the mind. What you are accusing others of is just like the laymen accusing the Shaikh and the student. Anyway just focus on being a good careing human. This is more important then being called a label.
Today we see things in black and white almost like a colour blind when in reality is full of colour.
May Allah open your heart and mind to beauti and may Allah forgive me for shortcomming.
Allahualam
i like u, ur a nice guy mashallah and i like ur posts, but im sorry i will never see shirk as something to just let people get on with. Shirk is non negotiable. Tawheed is the essence of islam and our reason for existence so shirk is not something that can be overlooked as it is spread through the ummah. I wont take the good and leave the bad of a mushrik, because this mushrik is hated by allah for his shirk and is destined for the fire and calls others to the hellfire with him, its a serious matter
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