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**htDgExh8** · 11-14-2011, 02:45 PM

Bismillah
A while ago I posted something like this and was informed that I'm being pessimistic. I see there is clear split within muslim and soon to be ex muslilm community. The arabs in general are useless in facing the challanges. Their culture of complacency and inferiroty complex here in the west makes me think how on earth Islam spread at their hand. They have no concept of social dynamics and often the relegious elite reinforce the same attitude via a reactionary approach. I for one think Secularism at large won the battle at least for now. Relegious elite (non scholarly or psudo scholarly) have fallen and will fall untill they have nothing to show for. If one looks at the social make up, it is only some over zealot youngstars who is suffering from idenity crisis is holding on to some emblem of relegion (hence ism). There is real and present danger of losing a large portion of muslimah (practicing and non practicing) to kuffars. Hence it is not uncommon to find a hijabi with ghair mehram and with non muslim.
The idea of polygomy is frownd upon both by relegious and non relegious (a clear victory for the secularist). So with all the Quran and Sunnah slogan, all I see down fall of a community as the community will soon cease to exist as a community. It says a lot about the community that can look after the weaker sex and its next generation. Deo and non deo will fall and no scholar is going to change this! inteletual bankruptcy at the face of superiror secular discourse and hedzog like syndrom of relegious elite will simply speed up the process of impending doom. 50%+ muslim marriages end up devorce in US and so is in UK. These are not non practicing but practicing. So much for Quran and Sunnah!! Perhaps this community need to be annhialated for betterment of true seekers.
In a pathetic attampt, they build masjeds after masjed but real issue is not addressed just like some sort of drug fix!!
I fear for the muslim and more so for the sisters. This immigrant community so far failed! The last bastion will be Gujistan and it will also die with its surat and bharuch syndrome.
Allahualam

11-14-2011, 02:45 PM	#29
htDgExh8 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 454 Senior Member	Bismillah A while ago I posted something like this and was informed that I'm being pessimistic. I see there is clear split within muslim and soon to be ex muslilm community. The arabs in general are useless in facing the challanges. Their culture of complacency and inferiroty complex here in the west makes me think how on earth Islam spread at their hand. They have no concept of social dynamics and often the relegious elite reinforce the same attitude via a reactionary approach. I for one think Secularism at large won the battle at least for now. Relegious elite (non scholarly or psudo scholarly) have fallen and will fall untill they have nothing to show for. If one looks at the social make up, it is only some over zealot youngstars who is suffering from idenity crisis is holding on to some emblem of relegion (hence ism). There is real and present danger of losing a large portion of muslimah (practicing and non practicing) to kuffars. Hence it is not uncommon to find a hijabi with ghair mehram and with non muslim. The idea of polygomy is frownd upon both by relegious and non relegious (a clear victory for the secularist). So with all the Quran and Sunnah slogan, all I see down fall of a community as the community will soon cease to exist as a community. It says a lot about the community that can look after the weaker sex and its next generation. Deo and non deo will fall and no scholar is going to change this! inteletual bankruptcy at the face of superiror secular discourse and hedzog like syndrom of relegious elite will simply speed up the process of impending doom. 50%+ muslim marriages end up devorce in US and so is in UK. These are not non practicing but practicing. So much for Quran and Sunnah!! Perhaps this community need to be annhialated for betterment of true seekers. In a pathetic attampt, they build masjeds after masjed but real issue is not addressed just like some sort of drug fix!! I fear for the muslim and more so for the sisters. This immigrant community so far failed! The last bastion will be Gujistan and it will also die with its surat and bharuch syndrome. Allahualam
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