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**ppfpooghn** · 11-14-2011, 09:06 PM

salam alikum,
great reply i think,
in short - they figth for equality, science, against rasism etc ... as they have problem with those values.
Then - step two - they suppose that all others have the same problems (prejudices) therfore they fight against muslims and islam to impose their rules (which they think are the best).

w salam

Yes. That's about it. Cultural hubris prevents them from seeing any value in anything outside themselves. Americans actually believe that they invented everything, including the wheel.

There is science behind what I said.

Look at http://www.geert-hofstede.com/

Geert Hosstede is a Dutch social researcher and consultant. His research is in mapping cultural values. At his website compare "Arab World" with "USA" and "UK".

Hosstede postulates five indices: Power Distance; Individualism; Masculinity; Uncertainty Avoidance; and Long Term Orientation.

This is what his Masculinity index returns for "Arab World":

The Masculinity index (MAS), the third highest Hofstede Dimension is 52, only slightly higher than the 50.2 average for all the countries included in the Hofstede MAS Dimension. This would indicate that while women in the Arab World are limited in their rights, it may be due more to Muslim religion rather than a cultural paradigm. This contradicts popular "wisdom" about the region.

Compare "Arab World," above, to this for the US:

The next highest Hofstede Dimension is Masculinity (MAS) with a ranking of 62, compared with a world average of 50. This indicates the country experiences a higher degree of gender differentiation of roles. The male dominates a significant portion of the society and power structure. This situation generates a female population that becomes more assertive and competitive, with women shifting toward the male role model and away from their female role. His explanation for this is not correct. He says that low gender role differentiation in the Arab world is despite Islam, not because of it. He is probably affected by popular notions of Islam as essentially misogynist and repeats a facile explanation. As we both know, Islam expanded and regularized women's position in Arab society rather than restricting it.

Salaam,

Abu Marwan

11-14-2011, 09:06 PM	#39
ppfpooghn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	salam alikum, great reply i think, in short - they figth for equality, science, against rasism etc ... as they have problem with those values. Then - step two - they suppose that all others have the same problems (prejudices) therfore they fight against muslims and islam to impose their rules (which they think are the best). w salam Yes. That's about it. Cultural hubris prevents them from seeing any value in anything outside themselves. Americans actually believe that they invented everything, including the wheel. There is science behind what I said. Look at http://www.geert-hofstede.com/ Geert Hosstede is a Dutch social researcher and consultant. His research is in mapping cultural values. At his website compare "Arab World" with "USA" and "UK". Hosstede postulates five indices: Power Distance; Individualism; Masculinity; Uncertainty Avoidance; and Long Term Orientation. This is what his Masculinity index returns for "Arab World": The Masculinity index (MAS), the third highest Hofstede Dimension is 52, only slightly higher than the 50.2 average for all the countries included in the Hofstede MAS Dimension. This would indicate that while women in the Arab World are limited in their rights, it may be due more to Muslim religion rather than a cultural paradigm. This contradicts popular "wisdom" about the region. Compare "Arab World," above, to this for the US: The next highest Hofstede Dimension is Masculinity (MAS) with a ranking of 62, compared with a world average of 50. This indicates the country experiences a higher degree of gender differentiation of roles. The male dominates a significant portion of the society and power structure. This situation generates a female population that becomes more assertive and competitive, with women shifting toward the male role model and away from their female role. His explanation for this is not correct. He says that low gender role differentiation in the Arab world is despite Islam, not because of it. He is probably affected by popular notions of Islam as essentially misogynist and repeats a facile explanation. As we both know, Islam expanded and regularized women's position in Arab society rather than restricting it. Salaam, Abu Marwan
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