had you just answered my questions in the opening post and not written praises of the maulvi whose language and adaab were a serious subject of debate just a couple of days back on another thread, the argument would not have started.....and strictness as I know it is following the safest opinions, having taqwa, and not giving an inch away on the fundamentals and foundations of the Deen due to pressure from others...I know many scholars who are as strict as it gets yet their writings and speeches increase your imaan and conviction, rather than disgusting you or worse, make you burst out laughing...I assure you once again that I started this thread to learn some stuff unrelated to that discussion on the taadud thread the other day