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**wizardasa** · 11-02-2011, 09:28 PM

Karina, if Isa is God (naudhubillah), why did he say:

"The Father is Greater than I" John 14:28.

Why did the people say in Matthew 9:8 after the sins of the man were forgiven and Isa supposedly said that he had been given the authority to forgive sin-
"When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to men."

Why did Isa say (maybe he said it, maybe he didn't) "Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except God alone." Luke 18:19.

Why did Isa say (perhaps) in Matthew 17:20 that "He replied, "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

Hmm.

Thank you for your reply

So, first thing: Jesus came to the earth as a mere man. He left His divinity in heaven and after He was raised from the dead He returned to heaven to the same glory that He had had: "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. " (John 17:5)
Jesus came as a man, having human body and He came to serve and die. It was His very purpose in His coming to the earth: to DIE for humanity. That is why He had to leave His divinity in heaven because as God He is undestructable and eternal. So He took a body of humans and became a man and His body was killed. For you. Fo rme. For hitler. For muhammad. for everybody. so that we could be saved.
as a mere man (who left His divinity in heaven) He was limited by His body so of course the Father was greater than Jesus because the Father was not in the human body and was not limited in any way.
But look what Jesus says abut Himself (and He is sinless and never lies): "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. " (Rev 1:8) - Jesus says He is GOD ALMIGHTY.

second question of yours: Jesus came to die for us people and only AFTER His death on the Cross were our sins FORGIVEN and PAID FOR but Jesus received authority to forgive sins of people even before He died on the Cross. The purpose of His coming was to remove and blot out all sins of the whole world.

about Luke 18:19 - Jesus talked to a man who honored Jesus but he was too attached to his possessions and money to obey Jesus and he was hypocritical because he believed in the goodness of Jesus and at the same time couldnt trust that what Jesus told him (sell all of your goods and give it to the poor) will turn out for good to him.

about: Math 17:20
YES, ALL is possible for christians
everything within the will of God
we TOO can walk on the water as Jesus did
we too can make miracles
we too can create things
just like Jesus did it
because when we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior then He comes to dwell in our hearts and we become children of God and the almighty God LIVES in our hearts. He enables us to live a supernatural, sickness free life.
Of course, as life shows it, this doesnt happen authomatically in the lives of christians
however there are so many many miracles happening in the churches and individual lives of the children of God
but the more we change our minds according to the Word of God (to think like God says in the Bible) the more of His LIFE is released in and through us
God raises people from the dead, heals all kinds of sicknesses, delivers from the satanic oppressions, talks to us, guides us - it is a normal christian life (something unknown to muslims since islam is just a set of rules, regulations and restrictions and ready made prayers)

11-02-2011, 09:28 PM	#13
wizardasa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 461 Senior Member	Karina, if Isa is God (naudhubillah), why did he say: "The Father is Greater than I" John 14:28. Why did the people say in Matthew 9:8 after the sins of the man were forgiven and Isa supposedly said that he had been given the authority to forgive sin- "When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to men." Why did Isa say (maybe he said it, maybe he didn't) "Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except God alone." Luke 18:19. Why did Isa say (perhaps) in Matthew 17:20 that "He replied, "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you." Hmm. Thank you for your reply So, first thing: Jesus came to the earth as a mere man. He left His divinity in heaven and after He was raised from the dead He returned to heaven to the same glory that He had had: "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. " (John 17:5) Jesus came as a man, having human body and He came to serve and die. It was His very purpose in His coming to the earth: to DIE for humanity. That is why He had to leave His divinity in heaven because as God He is undestructable and eternal. So He took a body of humans and became a man and His body was killed. For you. Fo rme. For hitler. For muhammad. for everybody. so that we could be saved. as a mere man (who left His divinity in heaven) He was limited by His body so of course the Father was greater than Jesus because the Father was not in the human body and was not limited in any way. But look what Jesus says abut Himself (and He is sinless and never lies): "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. " (Rev 1:8) - Jesus says He is GOD ALMIGHTY. second question of yours: Jesus came to die for us people and only AFTER His death on the Cross were our sins FORGIVEN and PAID FOR but Jesus received authority to forgive sins of people even before He died on the Cross. The purpose of His coming was to remove and blot out all sins of the whole world. about Luke 18:19 - Jesus talked to a man who honored Jesus but he was too attached to his possessions and money to obey Jesus and he was hypocritical because he believed in the goodness of Jesus and at the same time couldnt trust that what Jesus told him (sell all of your goods and give it to the poor) will turn out for good to him. about: Math 17:20 YES, ALL is possible for christians everything within the will of God we TOO can walk on the water as Jesus did we too can make miracles we too can create things just like Jesus did it because when we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior then He comes to dwell in our hearts and we become children of God and the almighty God LIVES in our hearts. He enables us to live a supernatural, sickness free life. Of course, as life shows it, this doesnt happen authomatically in the lives of christians however there are so many many miracles happening in the churches and individual lives of the children of God but the more we change our minds according to the Word of God (to think like God says in the Bible) the more of His LIFE is released in and through us God raises people from the dead, heals all kinds of sicknesses, delivers from the satanic oppressions, talks to us, guides us - it is a normal christian life (something unknown to muslims since islam is just a set of rules, regulations and restrictions and ready made prayers)
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