mastam hazrat. You should post some taswuff related stuff on the forum bro.[/QUOT] Word "mastam",reminded me of something from Shaikh Najmuddin Kubra,but i will leave its English translation to either respected shaikh Maripat or Brother dr76 : "Dar chuneen hairat ke man daram che goyam wasfe khwesh Aatesham,Khakam,Naseemam,Aab o Darya cheestam?" "In this confusion which i have about Me,In what way should i introduce myself?Fire.earth.air.water? Who am I?" -------- Aaqelqm,deewana am,andar firaqam ya wisal Nestam,Hastam,na bar ja yam,na beja cheestam? "Wise?Crazy? Away from my beloved or very close to him? Do i exist or don,t i? Do i have a place or i am without a place ? What am I?" --------- Dar yake shabnam hazaran koh o sehra ein ajeeb, Shabnamam,ya sahelam,ya koho Darya cheestam? "What a strange thing ! In one drop of water,there are thousands of hills and deserts. Am i a drop of water or shore or a hill or river. Who am I ? ----------- Be nishani shud nishano be zubani shud zuban Be nishan o be zuban,goya wa beena cheestam? "My lack of identity has become my identity...and my lack of expression has become an expression in itself.I am observing and speaking without a name and expression.What am I? ------------ Dostanam Najme khwarzami hameen khwahande man Wala o madhosho heran nachiyam ya cheestam? I have difficulty finding proper English words here,pls help !