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**WaydayTew** · 10-24-2011, 05:14 PM

Can you show me where I said, you were trying to judge Qaddhafi. I didn't. I don't doubt your intention, you are problably have very sincere intention.

I thought the general rule was Muslims are suppose to cover the sins of other muslims, that's it. I'm just asking is it permissible to do what you are asking. That's it.

Scholars of Hadith do it when they look and record the actions of narrators. History scholars may do it when they record history. It may be permissible to do, since, what Qaddhafi may have done, does affect Muslims as a whole. I don't know, that is why I asked.

Its not about your intention, just the permissibility of it.

Salam alikum,
I would like also to know how to speak about sins of others to achieve some learning from that for others. May be is good to mention good deed of person beside it. May be then it is porsmissilbe?

I take this for a debate in AlJazeera, hoping I do not cross anything:
...Gadhafi and Libya 1. There was no electricity bill in Libya; electricity was free for all its citizens 2. There was no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law 3. Home considered a human right in Libya –Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent 4. All newly weds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family 5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83% 6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms –all for free 7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance 8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price 9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 (N22) per litre 10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally 11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found. 12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens 13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000 14. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country. ...

so may be after reading this his outfit does not count so much...
w salam

10-24-2011, 05:14 PM	#11
WaydayTew Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	Can you show me where I said, you were trying to judge Qaddhafi. I didn't. I don't doubt your intention, you are problably have very sincere intention. I thought the general rule was Muslims are suppose to cover the sins of other muslims, that's it. I'm just asking is it permissible to do what you are asking. That's it. Scholars of Hadith do it when they look and record the actions of narrators. History scholars may do it when they record history. It may be permissible to do, since, what Qaddhafi may have done, does affect Muslims as a whole. I don't know, that is why I asked. Its not about your intention, just the permissibility of it. Salam alikum, I would like also to know how to speak about sins of others to achieve some learning from that for others. May be is good to mention good deed of person beside it. May be then it is porsmissilbe? I take this for a debate in AlJazeera, hoping I do not cross anything: ...Gadhafi and Libya 1. There was no electricity bill in Libya; electricity was free for all its citizens 2. There was no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law 3. Home considered a human right in Libya –Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent 4. All newly weds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family 5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83% 6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms –all for free 7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance 8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price 9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 (N22) per litre 10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally 11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found. 12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens 13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000 14. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country. ... so may be after reading this his outfit does not count so much... w salam
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