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**actioliGalm** · 10-17-2011, 09:04 AM

Fullfilled evidence is always evidence a prophet told the truth. There are many prophecies in the bible , that already fullfilled, even in our days. Where are the fullfilled prophecies of quran ?

It's pretty obvious you never studied Islam.

About Quran and Bible;
a.
Regarding prophesies in the New Testament and Old Testament. Muslims believe the New Testament and Old Testament were originally Words of God before it's been altered by humans. Nowadays nobody knows which part was altered and which are still in its original form.

About Prophet Muhamad

and Quran, you think Prophet Muhamad

authored the Quran? Have you read the links given in the replies? How about you do an experiment yourself? Write down in your journal for 2-3 months, each on a totally separate piece of paper, about the events around you. Now try to gather all the pieces of your journal and construct a coherent piece out of everything. And do it while NOT revising any of the narration that you've written down.
Can you possibly have a coherent narration with what you've got? It's impossible, right?

And Quran was revealed little by little over the 23 years period.

And see for yourself how much your narrations are different from the Quran. Why? Because;
- as a human, when we write something down, it's impossible for us to dissociate our narrations from our emotions. Can you find something like this in the Quran? Prophet Muhamad

suffered a lot of rejections and hardships during his life, and yet there's none of his emotions in the Quran? If he was the author, how could he dissociate his emotion totally from his own narrations?

Also why the narration styles are totally different from Quran and hadiths?

b.
Quran is promised by Allah

that it will be protected. Should all the copies of the mashaf of Quran are destroyed today, there are millions of Muslims all over the world who memorize the Quran and

an original copy can be restored back almost immediately.

Can the same thing be said about Bible?

Prophesies

Recent events.
As for prophesies, you'll be astounded as the accuracies of the events unfolding as told in Quran and also hadith. Enemy of Allah will be spending huge amount of money to overcome Islam, but they will fail. See at what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan. Every time a newer IED comes out, the US and Allies forces have to upgrade the whole set of armours, and every new batch will cost taxpayers billions. And the US will spend more.

Do you know that Quran correctly addresses the ruler of Egypt before Pharaoh as King, whereas Bible failed at that? There are many of these examples and you can see it on youtubes, especially from our brothers who reverted from christianity.

- Do you know that Islam has five phases altogether? The first phase is Prophethood (Muhammad

), then the rule according to the method of Prophethood (the first four caliphs - more or less 32 years), then "biting kingdoms" - Ummayah, Abbasiyah, Ottoman, etc - 1400 years. Then oppressive rulers (hosni mubarak, muamar gadafi, etc). Then the method of the Prophethood.

we will revive the Islamic Caliphate and rule according to the method of Prophethood once again.

- Do you know that the war in Afghanistan has already been foretold by our Prophet

? The non muslims will invite each other like inviting friends to dinner to attack Khorasan, a nation of poor people, but the non-muslim will fail.

- Abyan Eden in Yemen. 12,000 Muslim army will come out of Abyan Eden to help liberate Muslim cities from the enemy.

Those are just about the recent events. There are a few more hadiths related to the above events but that's a different topic altogether.

How about other ones;
- Parents will give birth to their masters.
- Women will wear clothes but still naked.
- Bribes will be considered as gifts.
- Interest based economy will be global that even if a person tried so hard to not get involved in it, the 'dust' from the system will still affect him/her.
- Crimes will be rampant. The killer wouldn't know why he/she killed a person, and the victim wouldn't know why he/she was killed.
- Naked, destitute, barefoot shepherds will compete in building tall buildings. [The modern ex-nomads of Saudi Arabia are an excellent example of this.]
- The worldly wealth will be in abundance in the Arab peninsula.
- Earthquakes will increase.
- Time will pass more quickly.

and many more.

The question is, why wouldn't it happen NOT according to the signs foretold by the Prophet

?

10-17-2011, 09:04 AM	#19
actioliGalm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 439 Senior Member	Fullfilled evidence is always evidence a prophet told the truth. There are many prophecies in the bible , that already fullfilled, even in our days. Where are the fullfilled prophecies of quran ? It's pretty obvious you never studied Islam. About Quran and Bible; a. Regarding prophesies in the New Testament and Old Testament. Muslims believe the New Testament and Old Testament were originally Words of God before it's been altered by humans. Nowadays nobody knows which part was altered and which are still in its original form. About Prophet Muhamad and Quran, you think Prophet Muhamad authored the Quran? Have you read the links given in the replies? How about you do an experiment yourself? Write down in your journal for 2-3 months, each on a totally separate piece of paper, about the events around you. Now try to gather all the pieces of your journal and construct a coherent piece out of everything. And do it while NOT revising any of the narration that you've written down. Can you possibly have a coherent narration with what you've got? It's impossible, right? And Quran was revealed little by little over the 23 years period. And see for yourself how much your narrations are different from the Quran. Why? Because; - as a human, when we write something down, it's impossible for us to dissociate our narrations from our emotions. Can you find something like this in the Quran? Prophet Muhamad suffered a lot of rejections and hardships during his life, and yet there's none of his emotions in the Quran? If he was the author, how could he dissociate his emotion totally from his own narrations? Also why the narration styles are totally different from Quran and hadiths? b. Quran is promised by Allah that it will be protected. Should all the copies of the mashaf of Quran are destroyed today, there are millions of Muslims all over the world who memorize the Quran and an original copy can be restored back almost immediately. Can the same thing be said about Bible? Prophesies Recent events. As for prophesies, you'll be astounded as the accuracies of the events unfolding as told in Quran and also hadith. Enemy of Allah will be spending huge amount of money to overcome Islam, but they will fail. See at what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan. Every time a newer IED comes out, the US and Allies forces have to upgrade the whole set of armours, and every new batch will cost taxpayers billions. And the US will spend more. Do you know that Quran correctly addresses the ruler of Egypt before Pharaoh as King, whereas Bible failed at that? There are many of these examples and you can see it on youtubes, especially from our brothers who reverted from christianity. - Do you know that Islam has five phases altogether? The first phase is Prophethood (Muhammad ), then the rule according to the method of Prophethood (the first four caliphs - more or less 32 years), then "biting kingdoms" - Ummayah, Abbasiyah, Ottoman, etc - 1400 years. Then oppressive rulers (hosni mubarak, muamar gadafi, etc). Then the method of the Prophethood. we will revive the Islamic Caliphate and rule according to the method of Prophethood once again. - Do you know that the war in Afghanistan has already been foretold by our Prophet ? The non muslims will invite each other like inviting friends to dinner to attack Khorasan, a nation of poor people, but the non-muslim will fail. - Abyan Eden in Yemen. 12,000 Muslim army will come out of Abyan Eden to help liberate Muslim cities from the enemy. Those are just about the recent events. There are a few more hadiths related to the above events but that's a different topic altogether. How about other ones; - Parents will give birth to their masters. - Women will wear clothes but still naked. - Bribes will be considered as gifts. - Interest based economy will be global that even if a person tried so hard to not get involved in it, the 'dust' from the system will still affect him/her. - Crimes will be rampant. The killer wouldn't know why he/she killed a person, and the victim wouldn't know why he/she was killed. - Naked, destitute, barefoot shepherds will compete in building tall buildings. [The modern ex-nomads of Saudi Arabia are an excellent example of this.] - The worldly wealth will be in abundance in the Arab peninsula. - Earthquakes will increase. - Time will pass more quickly. and many more. The question is, why wouldn't it happen NOT according to the signs foretold by the Prophet ?
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