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Who said that I follow Ghulam Pervaiz Ahmad?
I listen to everyone but follow only Allah:
39:18 الَّذِينَ يَسْتَمِعُونَ الْقَوْلَ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ أَحْسَنَهُ ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ الَّذِينَ هَدَاهُمُ اللَّهُ ۖ وَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمْ أُولُو الْأَلْبَابِ
Who listen to speech and follow the best of it
. Those are the ones Allah has guided, and those are people of understanding.
[B]I really have serious difference of opinion with him [/B
]while I am sure he is correct on
some of the things
.
So I
differ
with almost everyone whenever their opinion is not in line with Quran.
You said:
"The Quran was revealed and not Allah's Messenger, so if anyone is in the dark amigo......it's YOU. "
Just reflect on the following verse
. You will see that what does it mean when Allah says follow the prophet. It simply means that follow the Quran as clear as day light from the following verse.
قُلْ أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ ۖ فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا فَإِنَّمَا عَلَيْهِ مَا حُمِّلَ وَعَلَيْكُم مَّا حُمِّلْتُمْ ۖ وَإِن تُطِيعُوهُ تَهْتَدُوا ۚ وَمَا عَلَى
الرَّسُولِ إِلَّا الْبَلَاغُ الْمُبِينُ
24:54 Say, "Obey Allah and obey the Messenger; but if you turn away - then upon him is only that [duty] with which he has been charged, and upon you is that with which you have been charged. And if you obey him, you will be [rightly] guided.
And there is not upon the Messenger except the [responsibility for] clear notification."
Did you understand that the above verses is clearly saying that Prophet's responsibility was no nore than conveying the Quran?
And if you need more such references I can post those as well and believe me there are many.
AND KNOW THAT ALLH IS THE ONLY GUIDE:
Whoever consider anyone one as guide other than Allah appoints a devil as a guide to him/her:
43:36 وَمَن يَعْشُ عَن ذِكْرِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ نُقَيِّضْ لَهُ شَيْطَانًا فَهُوَ لَهُ قَرِينٌ
And whoever is blinded from remembrance of the Most Merciful - We appoint for him a devil, and he is to him a companion
.
And whoever remember Allah since ZIKR= Remember Allah and Quran is mentioned in Quran as ZIKR:
54:22 وَلَقَدْ يَسَّرْنَا الْقُرْآنَ لِلذِّكْرِ فَهَلْ مِن مُّدَّكِرٍ
And We have certainly made the Qur’an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember?
And whoever keeps in touch with Quran, Satan cannot misguide them:
7:201 إِنَّ الَّذِينَ اتَّقَوْا إِذَا مَسَّهُمْ طَائِفٌ مِّنَ الشَّيْطَانِ تَذَكَّرُوا فَإِذَا هُم مُّبْصِرُونَ
Indeed, those who fear Allah - when an impulse touches them from Satan, they remember [Him] and at once they have insight.
Finally Allah tells us in Quran that don’t listen to the decorative speech of these people this is just a test for us:
6:112 وَكَذَٰلِكَ جَعَلْنَا لِكُلِّ نَبِيٍّ عَدُوًّا شَيَاطِينَ الْإِنسِ وَالْجِنِّ يُوحِي بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَىٰ بَعْضٍ زُخْرُفَ الْقَوْلِ غُرُورًا ۚ وَلَوْ شَاءَ رَبُّكَ مَا فَعَلُوهُ ۖ فَذَرْهُمْ وَمَا يَفْتَرُونَ
And thus We have made for every prophet an enemy - devils from mankind and jinn, inspiring to one another decorative speech in misconception. But if your Lord had willed, they would not have done it, so leave them and that which they invent.
Brother I don't tell anyone that someone is misguided or in the dark I just said no one the right to issue FATWA. as a result you issued a FATWA on me. If you have logical reasons and facts illustrate them here and make a logical discussion and if you don't then
Allah is the Guide, I cannot guide. Man can only warn.
Quran emphasizes the use of reason essential to the human growth:
There are people who refuse to reason: 7 times
Will you not reason: 14 times
Allah reveals signs and lessons and admonition perhaps you will use your reason: 8 times
Those who benefits most from Quran are:
• The persons of insight: 16 such statements
• Firmly rooted in knowledge: 8 such statements
• Use the reason: 10 such statements
• Stand on clear reason of proof: 7 such statements
Those who oppose this revelation
• Are deluded: 9 such statements
• In manifest error: 28 such statements
• Ignorant: 15 such statements
• Foolish: 3 such statements
• Have no understanding: 9 such statements
• Only follow conjecture: 9 such statements
• Blindly adhere to tradition: multiple times
Could you please classify yourself?
(I cannot do that either you are Allah)
17:46 وَجَعَلْنَا عَلَىٰ قُلُوبِهِمْ أَكِنَّةً أَن يَفْقَهُوهُ وَفِي آذَانِهِمْ وَقْرًا ۚ وَإِذَا ذَكَرْتَ رَبَّكَ فِي الْقُرْآنِ وَحْدَهُ وَلَّوْا عَلَىٰ أَدْبَارِهِمْ نُفُورًا
And We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And when you mention your Lord in
Qur'an ALONE
,
they turn back in aversion
.
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