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**derinasderun** · 01-02-2011, 07:00 AM

few major corrections in zubair's post

Did any of Abul Hasan al-Ashari's students say which was the last work ?

So we are to assume it's his last work because some Salafi wants the world to believe it? Get real.

Pull out the books of al-Ashari published by Abdullah al-Habashi and you will know. You didn't answer my question.

I don't understand why brothers involve themselves into such polemics and they don't know the fundamentals. This is fundamental? Really?

there is no NASS for your claim as well. so what you claim is also rejected even if it is supported by IBN JAWZI ( censured by dozen of hanabila including ibn qudama ) and ibn aqil ( coming from mutazilite background ) and ibn hazm ( since when did this scholar who refuted and declared asharites to be heretics suddenly become a source ?? ) What is my claim? If you really want to do Ithbat then do that of Ay'un? Didn't He say Bi'Ayunina? Tell me do you believe in Ay'un or not?

c'mon why is it okay for you to reject and not okay for us to reject ? or why is it for you okay to reject what Baqillani and other senior ashari scholars said about TWO EYES ? do you think you know more about the ashari madhhab than the senior giants of Ashari Madhhab like Baqillani Juwayni and others ?
Because there's no nass for the Two Eyes.

It is the same ibn kullab who Dhahabi said he might have agreed with heretic Mutazilites on the issues which differ between heretic mutazilites and sunni muslims ?
let us read the complete bio of ibn kullab by dhahabi. First off might have, and what issues? Just because agreeing in some matters doesn't mean the same hukm applies to both parties nor does it mean it's incorrect.
this is one of the most misleading statement. who are these "they" who say it is been tampered with ? are you referring to Habib Hasan Ali Saqqaf or his likes ? Nope, 'Ashari scholars such as Shaykh Ghawaji and others.

01-02-2011, 07:00 AM	#29
derinasderun Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	few major corrections in zubair's post Did any of Abul Hasan al-Ashari's students say which was the last work ? So we are to assume it's his last work because some Salafi wants the world to believe it? Get real. Pull out the books of al-Ashari published by Abdullah al-Habashi and you will know. You didn't answer my question. I don't understand why brothers involve themselves into such polemics and they don't know the fundamentals. This is fundamental? Really? there is no NASS for your claim as well. so what you claim is also rejected even if it is supported by IBN JAWZI ( censured by dozen of hanabila including ibn qudama ) and ibn aqil ( coming from mutazilite background ) and ibn hazm ( since when did this scholar who refuted and declared asharites to be heretics suddenly become a source ?? ) What is my claim? If you really want to do Ithbat then do that of Ay'un? Didn't He say Bi'Ayunina? Tell me do you believe in Ay'un or not? c'mon why is it okay for you to reject and not okay for us to reject ? or why is it for you okay to reject what Baqillani and other senior ashari scholars said about TWO EYES ? do you think you know more about the ashari madhhab than the senior giants of Ashari Madhhab like Baqillani Juwayni and others ? Because there's no nass for the Two Eyes. It is the same ibn kullab who Dhahabi said he might have agreed with heretic Mutazilites on the issues which differ between heretic mutazilites and sunni muslims ? let us read the complete bio of ibn kullab by dhahabi. First off might have, and what issues? Just because agreeing in some matters doesn't mean the same hukm applies to both parties nor does it mean it's incorrect. this is one of the most misleading statement. who are these "they" who say it is been tampered with ? are you referring to Habib Hasan Ali Saqqaf or his likes ? Nope, 'Ashari scholars such as Shaykh Ghawaji and others.
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