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**derinasderun** · 01-02-2011, 09:32 PM

and let us assume because some Kullabi Asharite wants the world to believe otherwise. You get real brother. Have you forgotten the words of Ibn Darbas al-Ashari

So definetely IBN DARBAS is more reliable than you or Ghawji or your likes for he said in the book Dabb an Abil Hasan Al-Ashari

you tell me brother, that senior Asharites didn't know Ashari aqida and you are here to teach us what is right and what is not nass. Senior Ashari giants like Baqillani and dozen others...

in other words you want to say that you have discovered that the early Asharite scholars who said TWO EYES were
1) wrong
2) heretics
3) innovators

which one is it from the above ?

I have no problem saying he was wrong in this, He was a mujtahid. Why don't you tell us about the Qidam an-Naw' al-'Alam (wherein he went against the Ijma' as recorded by Ibn Hazm)? Or how you guyz believe the Quran is Ghayr Makhluq yet Muhdath (a jahimi belief)? Or that the Prophet will be seated on the throne with Allah ta'ala? Or that the fire will terminate (a jahimi belief)? Or how you (or your buddies) claimed the proposition that "that in which accidents subsists is also Hadith" that you claimed was from Jahm yet Imam Tabari (and the Ashariah and the Maturidya) held it? Or how it's possible for Allah ta'ala to do Istiqrar on a gnat? Or that the ta'wil of Harwala that Imam Tirmidhi records from the Salaf is a Jahimi tawil? I advise you to keep silent before more of your rediculousness is exposed.

who said Ghawaji is Ashari ? Habib Hasan Ali Saqqaf also says he is Ashari [urlhasan-alsaqqaf.tripod.com[/url], so did Abdullah Habashi and Dont' about Habashi, but Shaykh Ghawaji is definitly not a salafi.

someone posted Ibn Taymiyyah was also an Ashari. L0L
Yea LOL, laughin like a school girl i'm sure. It was Hafidh Ibn Hajar the one whose book you rely on yet burn due to your hatred.

I wouldn't be surprised why the reason why your defending the current Ibanah, is because of the two 'Aynayn which you guyz are so obsessed with, included with that feet, hands, mouth, etc. And what about the expression Ya Sakin as-Sama', Is it why? Plz don't expose yourself further.

I ask you, Do all of the manuscripts agree or no? Did Shaykh Ghawaji lie when he said that the manuscripts he checked differed?

And when did we start taking our Jarh wa Ta'dil from Christians especially when we have Ulema saying he was an Imam of AhlusSunnah? This is what hatred of the salaf leads to!

01-02-2011, 09:32 PM	#34
derinasderun Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	and let us assume because some Kullabi Asharite wants the world to believe otherwise. You get real brother. Have you forgotten the words of Ibn Darbas al-Ashari So definetely IBN DARBAS is more reliable than you or Ghawji or your likes for he said in the book Dabb an Abil Hasan Al-Ashari you tell me brother, that senior Asharites didn't know Ashari aqida and you are here to teach us what is right and what is not nass. Senior Ashari giants like Baqillani and dozen others... in other words you want to say that you have discovered that the early Asharite scholars who said TWO EYES were 1) wrong 2) heretics 3) innovators which one is it from the above ? I have no problem saying he was wrong in this, He was a mujtahid. Why don't you tell us about the Qidam an-Naw' al-'Alam (wherein he went against the Ijma' as recorded by Ibn Hazm)? Or how you guyz believe the Quran is Ghayr Makhluq yet Muhdath (a jahimi belief)? Or that the Prophet will be seated on the throne with Allah ta'ala? Or that the fire will terminate (a jahimi belief)? Or how you (or your buddies) claimed the proposition that "that in which accidents subsists is also Hadith" that you claimed was from Jahm yet Imam Tabari (and the Ashariah and the Maturidya) held it? Or how it's possible for Allah ta'ala to do Istiqrar on a gnat? Or that the ta'wil of Harwala that Imam Tirmidhi records from the Salaf is a Jahimi tawil? I advise you to keep silent before more of your rediculousness is exposed. who said Ghawaji is Ashari ? Habib Hasan Ali Saqqaf also says he is Ashari [urlhasan-alsaqqaf.tripod.com[/url], so did Abdullah Habashi and Dont' about Habashi, but Shaykh Ghawaji is definitly not a salafi. someone posted Ibn Taymiyyah was also an Ashari. L0L Yea LOL, laughin like a school girl i'm sure. It was Hafidh Ibn Hajar the one whose book you rely on yet burn due to your hatred. I wouldn't be surprised why the reason why your defending the current Ibanah, is because of the two 'Aynayn which you guyz are so obsessed with, included with that feet, hands, mouth, etc. And what about the expression Ya Sakin as-Sama', Is it why? Plz don't expose yourself further. I ask you, Do all of the manuscripts agree or no? Did Shaykh Ghawaji lie when he said that the manuscripts he checked differed? And when did we start taking our Jarh wa Ta'dil from Christians especially when we have Ulema saying he was an Imam of AhlusSunnah? This is what hatred of the salaf leads to!
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