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**milfovoxapl** · 11-24-2010, 09:17 PM

then mention it as being your opinion. I could say that this is the view of some shafi's & didnt push it on any nonshafis. as if the rest of us dont stand by quran & sunnah.

answer this then.

1) You are looking for an argument in order to derail this thread.
2) No one is asking you to believe as us Deobandis do and no one is pushing his opinion on you. You dragged your Shaykh into this thread unnecessarily and started arguing about whether our opinion is right or not. So, the fact is that you are continuously trying to push your opinion on us.
3) Your beloved Shaykh mentioned half of what he should have mentioned and very cleverly left half of it hidden. Kindly go to Gibril Haddad's site and see the article where he is saying that this hadith is fabricated according to the Hadith scholars so we should drop the opinion of the Muhaddithin and take the opinion of the Fuqaha' in order to carry on this 'amal. That is why I said that you are going half-cocked, because you don't know in how many ways Bida'tis can fool you. So the end result is that NOTHING is proven from Abu Bakr(ra). If he had done it then we would have accepted it. But the proponents of this opinion have offered such a severely weak tradition that you cannot even ASSUME that the first Khalifa(ra) did it.
Wa salam.

11-24-2010, 09:17 PM	#31
milfovoxapl Join Date Dec 2005 Posts 563 Senior Member	then mention it as being your opinion. I could say that this is the view of some shafi's & didnt push it on any nonshafis. as if the rest of us dont stand by quran & sunnah. answer this then. 1) You are looking for an argument in order to derail this thread. 2) No one is asking you to believe as us Deobandis do and no one is pushing his opinion on you. You dragged your Shaykh into this thread unnecessarily and started arguing about whether our opinion is right or not. So, the fact is that you are continuously trying to push your opinion on us. 3) Your beloved Shaykh mentioned half of what he should have mentioned and very cleverly left half of it hidden. Kindly go to Gibril Haddad's site and see the article where he is saying that this hadith is fabricated according to the Hadith scholars so we should drop the opinion of the Muhaddithin and take the opinion of the Fuqaha' in order to carry on this 'amal. That is why I said that you are going half-cocked, because you don't know in how many ways Bida'tis can fool you. So the end result is that NOTHING is proven from Abu Bakr(ra). If he had done it then we would have accepted it. But the proponents of this opinion have offered such a severely weak tradition that you cannot even ASSUME that the first Khalifa(ra) did it. Wa salam.
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