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salafis are not one homogenous group. Abu Usama loves abu hanifa though

you guys are not fulfilling your part of the pledge:

http://muslimmatters.org/wp-content/...izations-2.pdf

here are some of the issues people here are in breach of whiel I try to fulfill my end of the bargain I watch in vain as teh line is conintually crossed by others here from a different pursuasion:

"Likewise, detailed discussions in matters of theology are the specific domain of trained
specialists, and proceed on the basis of well-defined principles and methodologies, which
are beyond the knowledge of the generality of Muslims."

"Recognizing that the specter of sectarianism threatens to further weaken and debilitate
our struggling Muslim community at this critical time in human affairs, and recognizing
that Allah, Exalted is He, has given the Muslim community in the West a unique
historical opportunity to advance the cause of peace, cooperation, and goodwill amongst
the people of the world, we the undersigned respectfully:

- Urge Muslims to categorically cease all attacks on individual Muslims and
organizations whose varying positions can be substantiated based on the broad scholarly
tradition of the Sunni Muslims. We especially urge the immediate cessation of all implicit
or explicit charges of disbelief;"

- Urge Muslim scholars and students of sacred knowledge to take the lead in working to
end ad hominem attacks on other scholars and students; to cease unproductive, overly
polemical writings and oral discourse; and to work to stimulate greater understanding and
cooperation between Muslims, at both the level of the leadership and the general
community;

-Urge Muslims in the West, especially our youth, to leave off unproductive and divisive
discussions of involved theological issues that are the proper domain of trained
specialists, and we especially discourage participation in those internet chat rooms,
campus discussion groups, and other forums that only serve to create ill-will among many
Muslims, while fostering a divisive, sectarian spirit;

- Urge our brothers and sisters in faith to concentrate on enriching their lives by
deepening their practice of Islam through properly learning the basics of the faith,
adopting a consistent regimen of Qur'anic recitation, endeavoring to remember and
invoke Allah in the morning and evening, learning the basics of jurisprudence, attempting
to engage in voluntary fasting as much as possible, studying the Prophetic biography on a
consistent basis, studying the etiquettes that guide our interactions with our fellow
Muslims, and the performance of other beneficial religious acts, to the extent practical for
their circumstances;

- Finally, we urge the Believers to attempt to undertake individual and collective actions
that will help to counter the growing campaign of anti-Islamic misinformation and
propaganda that attempts to portray our religion as a violence-prone relic of the past
unsuitable for modern society, and by so doing justify indiscriminate wars against
Muslim peoples, occupation of Muslim lands, and usurpation of their resources.



Some of the scholars whom I believe you will be putting your trust will include (to my knowledge):

Zaid Shakir
Suhaib Webb
Muhammad ibn Adam
Hamza Yusuf
Faraz Rabbani





So you guys should not be mentioning the names of specific organisations or individuals, shoudl not be discussing on web forums, shoudl be leaving it to the ulema, should be focusing on bettering yourselves through seerah, qur'an, voluntary fasting etc, should be working together to further islam and defend it from attacks and cooperate to remove the many harms we are currently facing.


Verdict: This thread is in serious breach of this agreement!



I agree that some salafi youth still havent got over the rafa al yadain issue, and thats why we should be making efforts to inform them of this pledge and to leave these topics rather than fighting. You guys should make efforts to build bridges with salafis rather than attack them. These issues are pathetic. If you want to call people to make tawleed, according to the agreement, tehre is absolutely no issue with you writing up an article on taqleed and its proofs and benefits, just dont make ad hominem attacks and mention specific names of indivudals and organisations. Then you would be totally in keeping with the agreement. you dont need to attack anyone, especially the likes of mercy mission who do so much good and NEVER attack any of your scholars or organisations and always try to reach out.

There are some serious deviants in this ummah like tahir ul qadri. Dont waste your time fighting salafis when you are on the same side inshAllah