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**cajonnmu** · 09-09-2011, 12:36 AM

the reasons for following saudi is not even for fiqha issues as you well know colonel sahib. Yes,read that again folks, the reason why saudi is followed in the UK is not based on fiqha issues. Im not going to say what. but the people in the know on this forum know what im talking about. Im not going to say more than that or i'll get into trouble.

I have YET to come across a single Scholar of any repute in UK (including Mufti Shabbir Saheb of Darul-uloom Bury) & Dr (Shaykh) Suhaib Hasan (Ahl-e-Hadeeth) who doesn't believe that Saudi moonsighting is free from error.

Shaykh (Mufti) Javed Saheb (HA) is concentrating on the 2nd part i.e. what happens if this "faulty sighting is followed", he is off course right.

The approach of Wifaqul-Ulamah is to skip the discussion of “what happens if...” and concentrate on following & reviving the Sunnah.

Both Shaykh (Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA) and Shaykh (Mufti) Ibraheem Desai (HA) are SOLIDLY behind the idea to promote local sighting and Wifaq strategy.

In American parlance "a positive campaign" is needed.

Mother Teresa was asked, “Why did you join Anti-war coalition, a good Christian is not Anti anything”
She said, “Show me a Pro-peace movement and I will join it!”

Wifaqul-Ulama are as "Pro-Sunnah" as you can get.

Hizbul-Ulamah rely on an opinion (in Fiqh) but don't promote "Sunnah of Moon Sighing" as rigourously as they should. For 1400+ years of Islam Ulamah and laymen have both attempted to sight the moon.

Its a simple argument when evaluate the grounding and future direction. Calculations will ALWAYS agree with accurate sighting and that’s a default.

The heart of the argument needs to be looked at instead of "Pro-Saudi vs Anti-Saudi".

09-09-2011, 12:36 AM	#19
cajonnmu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	the reasons for following saudi is not even for fiqha issues as you well know colonel sahib. Yes,read that again folks, the reason why saudi is followed in the UK is not based on fiqha issues. Im not going to say what. but the people in the know on this forum know what im talking about. Im not going to say more than that or i'll get into trouble. I have YET to come across a single Scholar of any repute in UK (including Mufti Shabbir Saheb of Darul-uloom Bury) & Dr (Shaykh) Suhaib Hasan (Ahl-e-Hadeeth) who doesn't believe that Saudi moonsighting is free from error. Shaykh (Mufti) Javed Saheb (HA) is concentrating on the 2nd part i.e. what happens if this "faulty sighting is followed", he is off course right. The approach of Wifaqul-Ulamah is to skip the discussion of “what happens if...” and concentrate on following & reviving the Sunnah. Both Shaykh (Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA) and Shaykh (Mufti) Ibraheem Desai (HA) are SOLIDLY behind the idea to promote local sighting and Wifaq strategy. In American parlance "a positive campaign" is needed. Mother Teresa was asked, “Why did you join Anti-war coalition, a good Christian is not Anti anything” She said, “Show me a Pro-peace movement and I will join it!” Wifaqul-Ulama are as "Pro-Sunnah" as you can get. Hizbul-Ulamah rely on an opinion (in Fiqh) but don't promote "Sunnah of Moon Sighing" as rigourously as they should. For 1400+ years of Islam Ulamah and laymen have both attempted to sight the moon. Its a simple argument when evaluate the grounding and future direction. Calculations will ALWAYS agree with accurate sighting and that’s a default. The heart of the argument needs to be looked at instead of "Pro-Saudi vs Anti-Saudi".
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