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**viagsjicguara** · 04-04-2011, 05:05 AM

what is the literal meaning of the word "wahabi"?
what is the definition of "wahabi?
why they are called wahabi?
what is deobandi?
who should be the followers of wahabis and deobandi?

"wahhabi" refers to people who reject madhab. they consider ashari and maturadi aqeedah as deviant. even tho 90% of muslims follow madhab and ashari/maturadi aqeedah. they are a hanbali offshoot, who took the athari aqeedah of hanbalism and made it extreme.

wahhabbis dont call themselves "wahhabi". they call themselves "salafi" because they claim that, we reject madhab because we follow the salaf (sahaba). we follow salafi while the deviants follow others like imam hanafa, malik, sahafi'i, etc. even tho muslims have always followed imams, and hanifa was himself a salaf. and every salaf themselves learnt things from imams. nobody is born with pre-existing knowledge.

the reason ppl call "salafis" wahhabi is because nobody believes or recognizes their claim that they follow salafs. every hanafi, maliki, sahafi considers himself salafi as we allow believe we follow salaf/sahaba/sunnah. but since these "salafi" reject our aqeedah, they are an innovation/deviation. and the reason they are called "wahhabi" is because Abdul wahhab was the first to spread this type of ideology, which became implemented after the saudis took power.

so the point is like this. if hanafis follow hanaf, malikis follow malik, hanbalis follow hanbal. these "salafis" actually follow imam wahhab, so they are WAHHABI. this is to tell them that we reject your claim that you dont follow any "imam or madhab". you DO follow the madhab of Abdal wahhab, so you are wahhabi.

salafis says they dont follow madhabs or do taqleed (following an imam/madhab). but reality is every salafi is following either this imam or that imam. few hanafis ever quote hanaf, what he said or what he did. but every salafi will quote ibn taymiyyah, as if he is some sort of Prophet. and all the different groups among salafi are following either this or that imam. basically, they become hypocrites.

afterall, if anyone wants to even have any knowledge u must seek it from one who is knowledgable. the Quran says if we have any problems, to see an expert. if we are sick then go to a doctor, if we want to build a house go to an engineer. if u want to know about religion then u need imam. so even salafis follow imams. so all they did is basically reject madhab saying u cant follow imams, while they themselves make up their own imams and follow them like gods....

04-04-2011, 05:05 AM	#21
viagsjicguara Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 458 Senior Member	what is the literal meaning of the word "wahabi"? what is the definition of "wahabi? why they are called wahabi? what is deobandi? who should be the followers of wahabis and deobandi? "wahhabi" refers to people who reject madhab. they consider ashari and maturadi aqeedah as deviant. even tho 90% of muslims follow madhab and ashari/maturadi aqeedah. they are a hanbali offshoot, who took the athari aqeedah of hanbalism and made it extreme. wahhabbis dont call themselves "wahhabi". they call themselves "salafi" because they claim that, we reject madhab because we follow the salaf (sahaba). we follow salafi while the deviants follow others like imam hanafa, malik, sahafi'i, etc. even tho muslims have always followed imams, and hanifa was himself a salaf. and every salaf themselves learnt things from imams. nobody is born with pre-existing knowledge. the reason ppl call "salafis" wahhabi is because nobody believes or recognizes their claim that they follow salafs. every hanafi, maliki, sahafi considers himself salafi as we allow believe we follow salaf/sahaba/sunnah. but since these "salafi" reject our aqeedah, they are an innovation/deviation. and the reason they are called "wahhabi" is because Abdul wahhab was the first to spread this type of ideology, which became implemented after the saudis took power. so the point is like this. if hanafis follow hanaf, malikis follow malik, hanbalis follow hanbal. these "salafis" actually follow imam wahhab, so they are WAHHABI. this is to tell them that we reject your claim that you dont follow any "imam or madhab". you DO follow the madhab of Abdal wahhab, so you are wahhabi. salafis says they dont follow madhabs or do taqleed (following an imam/madhab). but reality is every salafi is following either this imam or that imam. few hanafis ever quote hanaf, what he said or what he did. but every salafi will quote ibn taymiyyah, as if he is some sort of Prophet. and all the different groups among salafi are following either this or that imam. basically, they become hypocrites. afterall, if anyone wants to even have any knowledge u must seek it from one who is knowledgable. the Quran says if we have any problems, to see an expert. if we are sick then go to a doctor, if we want to build a house go to an engineer. if u want to know about religion then u need imam. so even salafis follow imams. so all they did is basically reject madhab saying u cant follow imams, while they themselves make up their own imams and follow them like gods....
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