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**GeorgeEckland** · 09-06-2011, 02:25 PM

Please post the arabic.

And you are posting images on images, videos on videos.... SAD

How about I'm Salafi!

Can you show me anywhere that the imams were against calling themselves Sunni, Shafii, Maliki, Hanafi, Hanbali?

So if someone says Ya Jilani, hes a mushrik?

How about bowing down to kiss hands? Isn't that Shirk?

Even those.. you mean the ones with Ash'ari aqeedah are misguided?

What is such things?

Yes I post videos because when one sees this common sense says that its not right.

As for calling ones self with a certain label (not calling others), I also disagree with this in a way, Ahl Al Sunnah should be more than enough, but this is different from calling others names, in defense of graveworship.

If someone says Ya Jilani cure me, as I explained, we say this is an act of shirk, we dont automatically say he is mushrik. Theres conditions for Takfeer, and nullifiers as well. Its certainly not to be taken lightly, and better to be left for the scholars, not us. Its better to just remind them of Tawheed if they are simply uneducated and surrounded with superstitions. The rest is left to Allah

As for bowing to kiss hands, no. This is different, see why videos are good and better at explaining? LOL

Heres examples, enough to get the point accross what I mean by they make sujood. One after the other, complete and full sujood. I wonder if this sheikh even ever extends his foot. This is not anything near bowing even. Its plain sujood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJDKfpGLDZc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S6gk4rbFrI

09-06-2011, 02:25 PM	#19
GeorgeEckland Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 499 Senior Member	Please post the arabic. And you are posting images on images, videos on videos.... SAD How about I'm Salafi! Can you show me anywhere that the imams were against calling themselves Sunni, Shafii, Maliki, Hanafi, Hanbali? So if someone says Ya Jilani, hes a mushrik? How about bowing down to kiss hands? Isn't that Shirk? Even those.. you mean the ones with Ash'ari aqeedah are misguided? What is such things? Yes I post videos because when one sees this common sense says that its not right. As for calling ones self with a certain label (not calling others), I also disagree with this in a way, Ahl Al Sunnah should be more than enough, but this is different from calling others names, in defense of graveworship. If someone says Ya Jilani cure me, as I explained, we say this is an act of shirk, we dont automatically say he is mushrik. Theres conditions for Takfeer, and nullifiers as well. Its certainly not to be taken lightly, and better to be left for the scholars, not us. Its better to just remind them of Tawheed if they are simply uneducated and surrounded with superstitions. The rest is left to Allah As for bowing to kiss hands, no. This is different, see why videos are good and better at explaining? LOL Heres examples, enough to get the point accross what I mean by they make sujood. One after the other, complete and full sujood. I wonder if this sheikh even ever extends his foot. This is not anything near bowing even. Its plain sujood. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJDKfpGLDZc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S6gk4rbFrI
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