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Old 08-31-2011, 09:10 AM   #9
Allbrunette

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I am talking about the restoration of Rashidun Caliphate.
You know, when there was the Khilafah, there were not that much problem. But by demolishing the Khilafah they have destroyed each & every principle. I am really very disapponted by seeing that even after 87 years of demolishion people are still thinking of that which governmental system should we choose, whether parliament or dictatorship or anything else.
As Egyptian will gonna decide who would be their new leader, y dont they adopt the system of caliphate, i mean what is wrong with that.
But they are fooled by US (NATO). Their elections would be held under the supervision of NATO so this means leader would on the basic principles of USA. Sad
Even the Rashidun Caliphate if taken as a model (which would revolve around shoora basically) would still require much legal and political reasearch that hasnt been done. The Caliphs ruled for life, would this be a proper way nowadays where individuals are nowhere near the piety and knowledge of the four Caliphs? Theres so many questions so im just mentioning some here and there as examples, and not to say that these are the big questions.

I think Muslims underestimate the value of codifying sharia laws. Many Muslims even are afraid of anyone talking about Caliphate, including myself to be honest! Why? Because theres no clear definition and research regarding it. Any group here or there with tons of emotions and little education (and no legal background) would talk about Caliphate sometimes, and you dont know what is their understanding of it? Some imply in their speech that Islam is only about Hudood punishments, related to crimes like murder, stealing etc, and laws regarding apostasy the way THEY understand it. And they clearly do not have a clear image of Islam, let alone being qualified to lead a whole civilization. (Some, not all)

Even when it is said "we go by the laws of Islam", having a simple line in the constitution stating that any law that is proven to be unislamic is not to be legal. Whos to say its unislamic or not? Individuals, who may naturally disagree on many issues.

If things are codified, everyone will know what is it we are talking about. And points of disagreement would be easily discussed. Not only that things will be clear, but a legal system can be adapted elsewhere.

Its extremly important, as many, many issues fall under it, which dont have consensus. Everyone wants Islam, but thats general. The concept of citizenship is unclear, especially when theres non Muslim citizens in the country. Also the concept of apostasy, and its relation to citizenship. Personally I agree with what many sheikhs have said, which is that at the time, the leader was the prophet, and there were many hypocrites, and polytheists at war with Muslims, so leaving Islam would pretty much mean treason and joining the enemy.

Also, the concept of ahl al dhimma (Dhimmis, which some thing is a negative thing, which is totally inaccurate, rather theres emphasis on protecting the rights of non Muslims, usually connected to paying Jizyah, while Muslims pay Zakat. But what are these rights? Also, another point of potential disagreement.

Freedom of expression, what are its limits? How are they determined? Many would give their own ijtihaad on this, but again, another point of potential disagreement that hasnt been studied in detail.

Also, what would shoora really mean? It literally means consultation, but how would it be applied? Can a parliment be a Shoora council? I see many saying oh democracy is wrong etc, but we have a similar concept concept in Islam, but unfortunatly we never got into the details.

Also, what is the Islamic economic system? What system would the "Caliph" adapt? Besides Riba being haram and other concepts against monopolies etc, Muslims are free to decide what is best for them under those guidelines. And now Islamic economics is booming faster than ever. Although theres trillions involved now, we are still taking babysteps, and theres great research being done, but still, theres no complete system. Theres still no studies on monetary tools that would replace interest, which is an important tool to counter inflation. We only have guidelines, and the rest is up to us.

So the important issues that need to be studied in detail are countless. I remember a Saudi shiekh who was a judge at an Islamic court (who now works with a law firm) saying something so accurate.

He said we Muslims know what we dont want, but we dont know what we want. Of course everyone wants Islam and justice and "good", but those are only goals, and we've really fell behind on studying how to achieve them, and theres tremendous room for improvement. More room is given also because of two rules in Islam.

1- Everything is halal, unless mentioned otherwise.

2- Except for specific Hudood, inheritance, and family laws, and some prohibited things related to usary (Riba), monopoly etc, most laws are very general, and are about not causing harm to one another etc.

This leaves us with the responsibility to get into the details. Its best if those with great and deep knowledge of Sharea AND other legal systems, to develop what we really want.

Therefore I think instead of talking about goals, we should talk more about methods on how to achieve them. It will take a long time, and trying different models. But maybe since theres so many Muslim countries we can have different models at the same time, and can eventually, choose the best? Or the best from each?

This cannot be done overnight, and will take years because its a process. Those who say "We want sharea" are saying something every Muslim wants, but the question is how, and nobody talks about that, and thats why we're falling behind in my opinion. Caliphate system based on Shoora, is not something with details clear to anyone. Once we face this, then we can start solving it. Otherwise we'd just be talking about general beautiful ideas with no idea how to apply them.

Blaming the west for our shortcomings only makes us weaker if it makes us not discuss our real problems throwing everything on them. Yes theres oppression, and injustice, but we have lots of shortcomings too that we dont really admit. Islam is perfect, but we arent. If we do our own homework, our own research, nobody in the world can stop it.

The only faster alternative to this would be having a "good" and "just" dictator who would establish a model, but would people call him a Caliph? Would he really be one? How would the one after him be chosen? Would he actually establish rules related to that?

That said, simplifying issues in my opinion, would make us look like a child with a square block, trying to put it in an opening made for a triangle, and when it doesnt fit in, he/she would just push harder, and wonder why its not working since his intentions are noble.

The president of the Libyan government now, has a legal background, and an Islamic one too. He seems to be smart, mature, and reasonable. I hope he can help in establishing a good Islamic model we can all learn from.
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